You do not understand the subtlety of my thought if you now think I have “joined the Jewish side” – as a mathematician, you are trained to think in simplistic binaries, and cannot understand someone who transcends binaries.

It is not your fault.

But if it makes you happy to see “the natural order restored”, then enjoy it while it lasts.

I do like to reach the higher, wider, more philosophical view, which ultimately becomes religion if one goes deep enough, but as long as one remains a biological creature and one cannot entire abandon politics, as unintelligent as it may be.

I agree with you – and many Jews I know do too.

But as long as YOU make it possible for Jews to exploit you, they will – just as your group exploited its neighbors in turn.

And ironically, one reason Jews can exploit you is because by becoming materialists, you have no recourse but to let Jews set the spiritual and intellectual agenda.

Um…you have just reinforced my point. Try writing a book called the Crimes of Blacks and see how far you get.

Goodness, South Asian Muslims in the UK could literally be raping and abusing tens of thousands of local girls and the police woukd not investigate for years, for fear of being called racist.

someone who sees Jews as uniquely anti social, incompatible with the rest of humanity, etc.

I think that they see Jews as working to alter traditional society in ways that benefit Jews and disadvantage non-Jews.

Two more observations: you seem to view conflict as defining human nature, but cooperation is at least as important, and secondly, you seem to view spirituality solely in terms of being a captive of an organized religion.

“Can you point to even two or three significant pundits who have called Putin “the new Hitler”?”

Boris Johnson (then the Foreign Secretary of Britain)

http://www.theweek.co.uk/2018-world-cup/92457/boris-johnson-vladimir-putin-world-cup-adolf-hitler-olympics

Here’s one comparing the Helsinki Summit to the Munich Summit, with Trump playing the role of Neville Chamberlin and Putin playing the role of Hitler

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/16/trump-putin-helsinki-munich/

Prince Charles comparing Putin to Hitler

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27497899

Hillary Clinton comparing Putin to Hitler

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/03/hillary-clinton-russia-nazi-germany.html

I spent 5 minutes on this errand, I’m sure I could go on and on.

And actually, it is a widespread enough phenomenon that someone actually made a list of people who have compared Putin to Hitler

http://www.businessinsider.com/people-who-compared-putin-to-hitler-2014-5

I’m sure it isn’t exhaustive, and it is from 2014, but still, more than “two or three significant pundits” have compared Putin to Hitler.

Your “war of all against” was originally a Hobbesian formulation to describe all individuals against each other in the absence of government. It was hyperbolic reductionism.

Nonetheless, it did hint at how a nation state with a common culture might reduce social conflict so much as to render it irrelevant. Of course, an utterly conformist culture is also suffocating so there needs to be a balance.

I’d say England had that balance up until quite recently. This meant, that despite the tumultuous excesses of the rest of the world, England maintained both an extraordinarily innovative and peaceful society. It was not perfect, of course, but I cannot think of somewhere better.

Is this irony, projection, or both? White Southerners likely have a higher average IQ than Israeli Jews, are probably no more likely to live in trailers than Israelis, and when they do, neither the trailer nor the land is stolen or subsidized by a foreign government or charity…and they are less likely to be shacked up in the trailer with a close relative than is a Jewish settler. Hollywood stereotypes aside, I would think that Jews are more closely related to one another than any group of white Americans. As for the KKK jab, Jews are far more tribal and apt to join groups that promote ethnic interests than are whites in any part of the U.S. Like the Skokie Nazis, I would bet that many so-called white supremacist hate groups are infiltrated by Jews. Either way, there is no group of organized whites in the South that is anywhere near as obnoxious or corrosive as the SPLC, AJC, JDL, ADL, or any of the to groups that organized Jewry founded or supports. Antifa, is far more active and violent than the KKK.

And what exactly is the ‘universalist message’ of the Jews?

Zeidner, and Catholics are a race?

Jews are ‘White’ when they do something bad.

They are Jews when they do something good.

The worst thing a gentile can do to a Jew is notice he’s a Jew.

The worst thing a Jew can do to another Jew in private is not notice he’s a Jew.

The worst thing a Jew can to another Jew in public is let the goyim know he’s a a Jew.

IOW, telling the truth is “anti-semitism”.

Perhaps better said:

“anti-semitic”: any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like

http://www.codoh.com

We’ll stop telling the truth about you when you stop lying about us.

Which is what exactly? I had thought you brought up PC in the (mistaken) belief that I was referring to it.

Yes. This is a bad thing, no? This is not really the company the Jews of America want to be associated with, surely?

But, to reiterate, the above was not true in 1916, when books like The Crimes of England(https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Crimes_of_England/Chapter_I) were published. It has nothing to do with PC.

“there is an absolute prohibition on ingesting blood in the Old Testament.”

I though of not writing any more comments on Unz, as there are too many idiotic pro-Israel trolls, but this time I will comment your statement, as it seems you many not be so well informed on this issue and not a troll, and also to support Ron Unz in his efforts as he is correct in what he writes.

Torah forbids eating blood in 8 places, but please, read those places and think what they say. In one place the reason is given: the redemption is in blood. In another place not only eating blood is forbidden, most aspects of practical Kabbalah are forbidden. Yet practical Kabbalah was performed by Ba’al Shems. (It was also forbidden to pronounce the name of God, but Ba’al Shems (=kabbalist master, who pronounced the forbidden name for magic purposes) did it. Pronouncing the name gave power, just like blood gave power. It was forbidden for ordinary Jews, but not for Ba’al Shems.)
Thus, there were two reasons for the ritual sacrifice of Christian children: for the redemption of the people and for powerful magic requiring the assistance of God. Yes, though they themselves cheated, they did believe that in magic in the name of God would work.
Thomas in his description of William of Norwich (the victim of one of the ritual murders) tells what a converted Jew Theobald of Cambridge explained to him: the Jews believed that they had to sacrifice a Christian boy every year because otherwise they could not return to their country. This is just saying that the Jews could not return to Israel before redemption and that the redemption is in blood.
The corresponding place in the Babylonian Talmud is Sanhedrin 43a. In plain language it says that killing disciple of Jesus in a covert place is to honor God as by a sacrifice of the innocent firstborn. The body cannot be buried but must be thrown away, as was always done in suspected Jewish ritual murders.
The text Sanhedrin 43a is as follows: “There is a tradition: Yeshu had five disciples —Mathai, Nakkai, Netzer, Bunni, Todah. Mathai was brought before the judgment seat. He said to the judges: Is Mathai to be put to death? Yet it is written: Mathai ( = when) shall I come and appear before God ?, They answered him: Nay, but Mathai is to be executed; for it is said: Mathai (when) shall (he) die and his name perish?. Nakkai was brought. He said to them: Is Nakkai to be put to death? Yet it is written: Naki (=the innocent) and righteous slay thou not. They replied to him: Nay, but Nakki is to be put to death; for it is written: In covert places doth he put to death the Naki. Netzer was brought. He said to them: Is Netzer to be put to death? Yet it is written: A Netzer (branch) shall spring up out of his roots. They answered him: Netzer is to be put to death; for it is said: Thou art east forth from thy sepulchre, like an abominable Netzer. Bunni was brought. He said: Is Bunni to be put to death? Yet it is written: Israel is Beni (my son), my first born. They answered him: Nay, but Bunni is to be put to death; for it is written: Behold, I will slay Binkha (thy son), thy first born. Todah was brought. He said to them: Is Todah to be put to death? Yet it is written: A psalm for Todah (thanksgiving). They answered him: Nay, but Todah is to be put to death; for it is written: Whoso offereth Todah honoureth me [Ps. i.23].” Read this as many times as you need to understand it.
This place in Talmud does not demand drinking blood, but as Jesus told his disciples to drink his blood and eat his flesh for redemption, we can be sure that this was the correct tradition of Second temple Judaism and it lasted in Kabbalism.
The magical usage of blood can be found from Jewish magical and kabbalistic books. A sacrifice is necessary for higher magic since it requires approaching God and Torah forbids approaching God empty-handed. Sefer HaRazim tells to make cakes from four and blood of a lion cub. These cakes are not eaten, they are used for magic, just like in the Hagganah ritual Toaff tells about wine with blood is not drunken, it is poured to the ground, as Torah tells to do. The blood is needed for casting spells.
We find a command for drinking blood from the most holy book of Zohar: Idra Zuta in the end tells the whole companion to drink blood. Before that Idra Zuta tells twice that a sacrifice is necessary to calm the hatred of the lower God (microprosopus). What can the blood that the companion is commanded to drink be? If cannot be blood of the children of the Promised People, as that is forbidden, the children must be redeemed. It cannot be animal blood, as prophets say God does not want your animal sacrifices. The only blood that can be used is human but not from their people.

I could explain this more, but better you study yourself.

So ridiculous. And typical of Jewish narcissism.

Christianity, Islam, Hindus, etc all originating in the ME and Asia now exist in diasporas thru out the world.

Impossible to make Jews understand how self destructive their self worship is.

So ride on to your next appointment in Samarra .

said:
” It can be a modern anti-Arab spin like the one by Netanyahu that Mufti was responsible for Holocaust.”

You mean the scientifically impossible ’6,000,000 Jews & gas chambers’? LOL

Here’s what a righteous Jew has to say about the scam:

Appreciate your input on the thread – which I’ve been watching from a distance. Way too messy for me to get involved in too deeply, especially since Judaism is not my area of expertise.

Though having studied (studying) a religious tradition in depth, I can attest to this; if one focuses on just certain aspects or minority/extreme rulings or what Muslims have acted out (this includes recent incidents of Daesh chomping down on the flesh of their dead enemies) from the long history of Islam, I can make it out to be the most ridiculously vile thing ever under the sun without any peer. Likewise, I can selectively find stuff that will make it more hippy than many pozzed strains of Chrstianity.

The trick is to find the normative voice (in any tradition) that tends to neither extreme. And this is something that takes serious dedication and effort to do.

I do appreciate Mr. Unz’s article from a couple of perspectives:
1) he kick started a conversation – it’s up to the rest of us to take it in a constructive direction or be foolish
2) he admitted to a lack of knowledge about the subject matter
3) he provided plenty of references for people to do their own research

It seems to me, from what I have read here (and many thanks to others who aren’t just shouting, but providing serious – I’m not talking about Uncle So-and-So’s take on his blog-of-awesomeness – reading material) and other places, that some of the weird traditions seen in Judaism stems naturally from a religion tied strongly to a ethno-linguistic group. Which has resulted in a few very visible historic trends:
1) it is extremely powerful in maintaining a group cohesion over a tremendous amount of time and geography
2) it is a complete failure in convincing large numbers of others to join up – not that it cares to (see point #1)
3) it will bring about suspicion regarding its adherents since they will always be seen as others – which may be intended (see point #1)
4) it will continue to shed numbers to more universal religions, but replenish them within its own genetic ranks (reinforcing point #1)

In my area of Chicago-land, we have a lot of religious Jewish people walking around. I use them as a teaching tool for my children; their commitment to things like not driving on Saturdays, wearing their distinct clothing, establishment of businesses catering to their community, etc. is an inspiration – if they can preserve their insular religious tradition, then we obviously have no excuse.

Peace.

Note: An aside…many people in my circles are in mourning today. God saw it meet to extinguish one of his breathing lamps of guidance. The soul of Shaykh Murabit al-Hajj (ra) – one of the most knowledgeable Maliki scholars, an ascetic with few peers and the teacher (or grand-teacher) of many of the scholars I often reference – passed from this world. Nobody knows how old he was (he outlived everyone of his generation in his tribe), it is enough to say he was at Hajj – having made it on foot from the Sahel Desert – when he heard the announcement that the Ottoman Caliphate had been officially disbanded.

Very much so. Take the standard narrative on the various Inquisition. These were actually fact finding bodies, not courts. While these Inquisitions existed various religious offenses – heresy, blasphemy, witchcraft, adherence to a forbidden religion – were serious crimes with severe penalties. At the time almost all countries, as I’ll describe a few sentences down, had such religious laws. The problem for secular authorities was that determining whether these crimes had been committed required a technical knowledge, e.g., of intricate theological and credal issues, that far exceeded that of secular judges. The job of the Inquisitions was to determine whether a crime of heresy, blasphemy, witchcraft, etc., had actually been committed, and refer these findings back to a secular court.

The Inquisitions usually performed these duties conscientiously. Of the tens and probably hundreds of thousands of cases referred to them, only a few thousand were eventually tried in the secular courts and found guilty of religious crimes serious enough to merit execution. The Inquisitions did determine that tens of thousands had violated lesser laws regarding religion and the secular courts then tried and found many of these guilty and subjected them to lesser punishments. The Inquisitions and these secular courts maintained scrupulous records. The records demonstrate a careful regard for justice and the law. That we now disapprove of the religious laws should not mar our judgement of the Inquisitions and these courts.

We actually have an experimental confirmation of the beneficial effects of the Inquisitions. In northern European countries, where no Inquisitions existed, most estimates suggest that at least fifty thousand, and probably a great number more, persons were tried in purely secular courts, and ultimately executed, often by burning at the stake, for witchcraft. In the absence of an informed Inquisition, most of these persons were convicted on the basis of superstitious, but easily learned rot, like that in the infamous, heretical text, the Malleus Maleficorum. A proper Inquisition would most likely have found they had committed either no religious crime or a relatively minor one.

cakes from four — cakes from flour, some typos always remain

Tell us why jews arent just another group.

Yet, your reply fails to explicate even a single one of those supposed billion alternative possibilities….

“Who cares? … Life is complicated.
— According to Tyrion 2, any interest in historical events should be strictly on touristy terms. This is a remarkable rationale (with a personal touch) for dismantling the Holocaust museums and Wiesenthal center as the centers of hate.

1. In Chrome, I see a blank empty box and video does not play. In Firefox and Internet Explorer, the full video works though it is an old Flash video player: https://bloggingheads.tv/videos/2361

2. The full video is also available on YouTube:

Explain with examples of how Jews elevate Gentiles.

said:
“The constant spotlight shone on the evil Nazis prevented people from investigating the millions (30 million?) of deaths at the hands of the Jewish Bolsheviks. ”

“Evil Nazis”, as in supposedly.

Your point is understood, however.
Jews manufacturing propaganda about the Germans and then having the media & ‘academia’ under their control allows them to generally get way with what you are referring to.

I’ve seen it said:
‘Jews don’t always try to tell you what to think, but they always try to tell you what to think about’.

http://www.codoh.com

“I find nothing extraordinary in Israel selling arms…”
— In contrast, I found it extraordinary that Tyrion 2 was totally oblivious to the sordid facts of life in Ukraine both under Lazar Kaganovich and Nuland-Kagan.
In case you, Tyrion 2, overlooked the reference to a metaphorical meeting of Kagans clan of ziocons with the sadist and mass murderer Kaganovich in Ukraine, here is a repost: https://rense.com/general11/stal.htm
“Kaganovich was one of a small group of Stalin’s top sadists pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929. He became Stalin’s butcher of Christian Russians during the late 1920s and early 1930s when the Kremlin launched its war against the kulaks (small landowners who were Christians) and implemented a ruthless policy of land collectivization. The resulting state-organized forced famine, was a planned genocide and killed 7,000,000 Ukrainians between 1932 and 1933, and inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan. ..
… Kaganovich, was one of the worst mass murderers in history, and little wonder that during World War II large numbers of Ukrainians greeted the Germans as liberators, with many joining the Waffen-SS to keep Communism from enslaving all of Europe.”
– Do you recognize the root of banderism, Tyrion 2? Or this is too much against your touristy approach? Here is the Nuland-Kagan & Kaganovich legacy: https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5076191,00.html

Israel Shahak didn’t hate self. Stupid idea. He told truth. Maybe truth is self hating? Or, maybe, truth is hated?

Never the Jews….Unless it Is the Jews eh?

Israel was behind the 9 / 11 attacks.

This is what Former Director of Studies at the U.S Army War college, Dr Alan Sabrosky says:
(Dr Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research.)

“What we need to stand up and say is not only did they attack the USS Liberty, they did 9/11. They did it (Israel). I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at its headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is One Hundred Percent certain that 9 / 11 was a Mossad (Israeli) operation, period.
First the disbelief, and what I show them immediately afterwards is an interview with a demolitions expert named Danny Jowenko, and it shows the third building at the world trade center going down… And they look at that.. And I said, now you understand that if one of the buildings was wired for demolition all of them were wired for demolition… and that’s it, that’s the tipping point…

Getting into arguments about who was flying what and where they were, whether there was nanothermites… most things are true, but they are incidental, the thing that is necessary is to tell people: 3 buildings went down – the third was not hit by a plane, it was wired for controlled demolition, therefore all of them were wired for controlled demolition… and at that point the reaction is rage… first disbelief and then rage. 9 / 11 has led directly to 60,000 American dead and wounded… God knows how many hundreds of thousands of people in other countries that we’ve killed or wounded or made homeless.. This is an open wound… And what Americans need to understand is, they did it, they did it…
… The only real winner, from 9 / 11 and the wars that it spawned (Iraq, Afghanistan and Iraq, and of course Iran coming up to the front burner, and Syria still simmering on the back burner) – is Israel, no one else benefits, no other country benefits…” – Dr Alan Sabrosky

“Life is complicated, so I reserve my moral outrage…”
– Are you sure you have the prerequisites for MORAL outrage? Here are some more names of the prominent Jewish Bolsheviks:
Matvei Berman, the Boss of GULAG: “According to de-classified archive data released by the successor agency to the KGB after Perestroika, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the GULAG from 1934 to 1953, not counting those who died in labor colonies.https://rense.com/general84/germl.htm

And who was in charge of labor colonies? — Naftali Frenkel (born in Haifa): https://tarbaby.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/gulags-frenkels-efficiency-system/
“One of Frenkel’s innovations in the labor camps is the “you-eat-as-you-work” system or the “nourishment scale”. This system resulted in a high death toll in the camps.”

Here are the planners of the extermination of the most productive and educated segment of the peasantry in Russia: “Genrikh Yagoda, head of the OGPU secret police, and Matvei Berman, head of the GULAG labor camp system, proposed to resettle up to 2,000,000 people to Siberia and Kazakhstan in “special settlements.” A combination of dekulakization and collectivization [see Kaganovitch] led to mass starvation in many parts of the Soviet Union and the death of an estimated 11 million peasants…” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dekulakization
— A progeny of the Bolsheviks has resettled in Israel and the US: http://thesaker.is/bloody-monday-grandnephew-of-gulag-organizer-stabbed-the-echo-of-moscow-editor/

I haven’t allowed Jews to do a thing. The situation with Jews is far older than I am. I live a very modest life, and wouldn’t really want to deal with the headache of managing lots of money. I wouldn’t turn down a fortune, but I also wouldn’t spend my days counting and managing my wealth. I also don’t care to climb over people to grab a few shekels. I have no idea what God is, believes, or how he behaves, but I do believe there is more than meets the eye. That’s about as far as I can go spiritually without God talking to me, and I don’t trust any other human to take me further. I don’t see how any of this makes me deserving of being exploited or destroyed by organized Jewry, or any other person or group, and I wouldn’t call myself a materialist, either.

I’ve met people who do awful things to others, and then turn around and tell the victims that they deserve what they got for being weak or mistaken about their pred’s intentions, who point to minor flaws in the victims to make the victims into monsters, or who turn the righteous anger of the victims into the catalyst for their own prior actions, all in order to escape responsibility for what they have done. As a group, Jews remind me very much of these human defects. My group has accepted guilt for many things, often when it wasn’t warranted, and has often paid through the nose to make things right. As a group, I’ve never seen Jews do anything but blame, take, and exploit, and they do so by any means necessary.

Yes, to prevent truth of Yid being revealed.

Also the reality of saving a gentile’s life means to save kidneys, livers, hearts, lungs, hair, eyeballs, spleens, gold-in-teeth, for use by Yid.

Yid so defective lots of repairs, replacing needed.

Shahak was a great man. His greatness can be measured by the weasels who attack.

What was the purpose for the massacre of the Palestinians?

Allow me to take a shot. I believe very few wars -if any- are just. Men do horrible, evil things to each other and to women and children in war. They do so because it has proven effective strategy. When you destroy all that one has to live for you can destroy their will to resist… for a time.

One of the great secrets of war that the western interventionists will never remotely acknowledge (#metoo) is that rape by conquering men of conquered women is an essential feature of occupation. Everyone I have ever met in the armed forces acknowledges this as obvious when I frame it strategically. I always stop short of asking if they’ve done it or witnessed it. What’s the point. In other words if you don’t do it you seriously hamper the likelihood of eventually winning the long battle.

This should be fun. The explanation will probably boil down to something along the lines of “it’s very complicated,” or something similar. Maybe the answer will be the very Jewish “you’re too dumb to understand.” From my experience, those are typical responses from Israelis when the going gets tough. Maybe Aaron is different?

I have posted much at prior unz articles, about what you stated of 12 tribes split and biblical facts etc.

But fact remains and was in Dec 2012 Published in Johns Hopkins Prestigious Med Journals, the DNA findings study which proved, and agreed with an earlier 2000 dna research published after vetting etc. That at Least 98.5% of worlds current alive jew population are or have mainly Khazar DNA.

Including Sephardic jewry too, and litterally all of world jewry as mainly Khazar descended peoples.

Khazar composed of Turk+ Hunn+Mongral+Caucasian dna’s.

Which substantiates and proves Christ was correct in Rev.2:9 & 3:9 and several other biblical verse sections, when Christ was quoted as saying….”You have those among you that Call themselves jews, But they are Not, and Are imposters and Of the Synagouge of Satan. He also in John 8:44 calls out Pharisee rabbis and their Jew folowers as “Of their Father Satan, and like he, also are liars, thieves, and murderers.” Paraphrased but close enough untill you read actual statements.

Pharisee Talmudic rabbis turn their jew followers into, Twice the children of Hell as those pharisee rabbis themselves already are. Christ stated that also, and again was/is correct.

Jewry by time of Christ era, did so much Inbreeding, and so much Out breeding with so Many non jew or non israelite tribes and nations others, that they were closer to being a mainly Edomite peoples, except for the iraelites who maintained a totally intact israeliteish dna descent.

Lost sheep of House of Israel who Christ said He was sent to, were of 10 northern tribed House of Israel. Jews of judah lost rights to name of israel long before christ era. And as prophesied by Jacob to his two grandsons of his son Joseph when first met them in egypt during great famines era.

Today what Matters utmost is that entire world and especially America, are Royally screwed up and on verge of more major troubles than most folk can concieve of. And when all is said and done, all valid proof and research is done, names named, persons exposed via their own evils done, etc etc..Bottom line is that, there is No other ethnic group alive today, and descended from same types in past eras of such massive Woes and Evils, that have more actual guilt verdict of being Main Perps period….Than…jews……Research 1917 to 1990 Russia commie jews, and 1920s to 1930s Wiemere Germany run mostly be jewry, for a glimpse of americas future if they are not stopped and soon……If we had No 2nd amendt and so many guns in usa, we already be worse than those two examples of russia and germany under massive jewry controls.

The bochim are coming…………ahhhhhh the bochim have come

Whats not to like zeidner.good job my boy.

Deserve’s got nothing to do with it…

There will be predatory actions taken by others; the numbers of those willing to act immorally will increase or decrease over time. Many people are very happy to obey the rules, but what does one do about those that do not?

Yes, one call call them out (correctly) for being exploitative, but one will have been exploited. So one is left with a few choices:
1) recognize points of weakness, learn from mistakes and remedy the situation – especially the systemic failures that others can exploit
2) take your lumps now knowing that justice will be delivered eventually, but you will have to wait a bit – this requires a spiritual angle
3) keep asking the exploiters to change themselves; which will work for some, but will simply be seen as a sign of weakness by those with an exploitative bent

I cannot see a fourth option, though I’m open to it.

Materialism frankly doesn’t care – the results speak for themselves; a group of boars that is eliminated because another group of boars drove them from a watering hole is simply replaced.

Peace.

Indeed. Lol

Well, of course they do that. It’s warfare by other means. The Spanish also “alter traditional society in ways that benefit the Spanish and disadvantage non-Spanish.” In South America. The English, etc. Need I go on?

No, I agree cooperation also defines human nature – and we should nurture that. But conflict does seem endemic.

I think organized religion can, if done right, he good training wheels. A Jewish friend of mine was telling me that eventually Jews will advance to a level where they will not have to follow the Law – so within Judaism is the notion that organized religion is not ultimate. Buddhism has the same concept. But rules are indispensable for some people at certain levels.

I read Jewish publications all the time. They are all over my neighborhood, in front of every coffee shop and restaurant, public library swimming pool, in front of the post office and City Hall.

Those publications proudly proclaim that Ashkenazi Jews are all 7th and closer cousins.

I actually live in a small historically Jewish city completely surrounded by Los Angeles. The main reason the city is so Jewish is that we have our own school system completely separate from the black and brown disaster that is the Los Angeles public school system.

As the Jews say, school integration and bussing for thee but not for me .

I live east of the Jewish museum of hatred of the White Goyim aka Museum of Tolerance and west of one of the biggest Chabad Hasid Shetls in America

A few blocks west of the Museum of Hatred of the White Goyim is the west coast headquarters of ADL. The logo is interesting. It’s a globe with a banner printed with ADL strangling it. Very appropriate don’t you think?

I’m a White Goy Nationalist and proud of it. Zeidner is an anti White pro black criminal Jew.

Jews and Whites are eternal enemies. And I’ve infiltrated the west coast headquarters of Judaism. .

It is as Al Goldstein stated: “Christ sucks.”

I hear, but Hobbes was talking more about how the state mitigates the war between individuals. However, the war then gets transferred to between groups. Still it is a step in the right direction.

The English state created peace and prosperity for its members, but the English preyed upon the rest of the world. And with capitalism and Darwinisnm, the English began the reversion to the war of all against all.

Still, for a while, the English state did support a flourishing population.

It is, that through the agency of the Jews, God’s instrument merely, all human beings will be spiritually refined and uplifted, and dwell in peace and harmony, and eventually pass beyond this world entirely to a higher realm.

That is the vision in its purity, at any rate.

I guess you don’t know the difference between Armenians and Americans

Learn to read.

Come on, Talha! Of course, you see the obvious options for both the people and the boars. I’m not an army of one, but history is full of predatory individuals and groups getting their just desserts. I’m not going to think twice if the people trying to harm or displace me are eventually slaughtered, and it matters not whether they are Jews, Muslims, Hispanics, Africans, or other Whites. All of these groups tell me that might equals right, and if they can displace me, I deserve it. I guess your twist is that it’s God’s will, but we aren’t of the same religion, and I don’t really trust any human to tell me God’s will, anyway. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens if these groups don’t back off, and I don’t expect them to. At least I have the moral high ground.

Well, we see that when the northern Europeans tried to craft an indigenous tradition, they reverted to individualism in the moral realm – back to the war of each individual against each individual, a regression, and materialism in the intellectual tradition – the barbarian notion that only what the physical senses can perceive has value, an idea that appeals to people of unrefined intellects and overpowering physical appetites.

However, with proper guidance, no one soars higher than Europeans. And all people need external guidance, including Jews. The mistake is to cast off all yokes.

Verdi and Dante’s works are but effects of which you have written off the cause namely, Catholicism.

A good tree doesn’t bear bad fruit.

I appreciate your position – and I certainly believe don’t anyone “deserves” to be exploited by Jews, and the Jews who do this are wicked people. Great sinners.

I am merely pointing to a fact in “natural history” – that biological life entails group warfare, and Jews participate in this as much as anyone, and there is nothing special about this. Your group exploited others in its turn. Did your group repent, or was it defeated? When the current Jewish ascendancy collapses, there will be much introspection likewise.

Of course none of this is right – and religion is about going beyond this.

Hasn’t some Israeli historian claimed that Moses never existed and that the entire Exidus myth is nothing but a myth.

The article is about Jewish kidnapping and murder of Christians for religious human sacrifice .

Because it’s true and proven in many sources, you can’t deny it. So you jump from Jesus never existed to someone you disagree with is an ignorant southern hillbilly instead of a landlord in the 9o212 zip code.

You can’t refute fact A by bringing up totally off topic irrelevant fact B, especially when B is dead wrong

Great comment – I agree with pretty much everything.

In my area of Chicago-land, we have a lot of religious Jewish people walking around.

In my little corner of the world I just saw a pick-up truck with stenciled lettering on the back window that had a Star of David and it said, “Israel Will Prevail.” On the other side of the back window was an Easy Rider rifle rack with a couple of long guns.

Someone who transcends binaries, as in true and false; good and bad, is someone who has forsaken understanding.

Thank you Annamaria. Some Jews will acknowledge what their fellow tribes critters did in Russia but they justify it be the horrors and pogroms they endured.

Religious Jews in recent times soaked meat bought from the butcher in salted water for some hours to drain any vestige of blood contamination. I remember my mother doing it in my earliest childhood. In later years she professed atheism. My father was a jewish merchant seaman. He adopted an easily remembered alias using his mother’s maiden name Bergen and changed his name to Robert in order to get hired initially when he was about 17. Memories yes but memories of real life. Odd to find myself reading or skimming through what some commenter here called a “crazy bomb.” Using Christian blood to make matzoh? I have in the cupboard a store of Strait brand whole wheat matzoh baked it says on the package under the supervision of a rabbi. In small Hebrew letters the consumer is advised that it is not kosher (i.e. not to be eaten) during the Passover holiday. And the same info is supplied in English for the observant Jew who doesnt know what לא כשר לפסח means. The Strait package also makes the claim that it is “The original cracker!”

You get a F-…you didnt answer the questioned…you just babbled.

Goebbels was right.

A Jew can indeed assimilate to his host culture, but not while maintaining his Jewish affiliation with the tribal hive either overtly or covertly. To do so overtly excludes him as a member in good standing, for it implies the placing of the collective Jewish interests above those of the host culture and society, and this is unacceptable. To do so covertly is even more dangerous, because it brings out the chameleon like deception that is the ancestral trait, and enables him to circulate within and do more damage to his host society than the overt and loud identitarian Jew.

The truly assimilated are just the opposite; they acknowledge their Jewish origins while openly repudiating the tribal hive and the toxic and anti-social aspects of organized Jewry.

And what exactly is the ‘universalist message’ of the Jews?

And they seem to have had a nasty habit of crucifying early universalist Jews.

Today is July 17, the 100 year anniversary of the slaughter of the Goyim Martyrs Nicholas Alexandra Olga Tatiana Marie Anastasia Alexie Eugene Anna Alexie and Ivan by Jews who then proceeded to slaughter another 100 million Christians and Muslims caught in the Russian empire.

If you are a Christian, say a prayer for the Martyrs. If you’re not a Christian acknowledge the murders. If you are not a Jew, be prepared to save yourself and your family when it happens again.

I agree – and it is full of people getting away with it like bandits.

That is not my position; that is the only position I can see coming from a materialist perspective. The winners are those left standing once the dust settles.

Those people who desire to replace you, want to oppress you – and oppression is never morally justifiable.

Everything is God’s will – being exploited is God’s will being manifest, resisting being exploited is God’s will being manifest. Run from God’s will to God’s will.

And if one has the moral ground, one doesn’t have much to worry about (even in taking option #3) in the long run; at the very least, one will be compensated in the next life – justice will be done.

Peace.

Almost Heaven, West Virginia, Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River…

We’ll just have to wait this one out…though she might, but perhaps not in a way the driver intended; all depends on what one thinks winning means, eh?

Peace.

Thanks so much. I’ve always wondered why the bodies were found instead of buried very deep. So a dead Goy is just trash to be thrown about.

I’ve always thought that Jesus telling his followers to eat his body and drink his blood at a major religious holiday dinner indicated the followers felt it was a normal Passover thing to do.

The NT has a lot of conversations between Jesus and his followers in which the followers object to something Jesus says and he explains his ideas and they agree.

But they don’t even question eat my body and drink my blood so it must have been normal in their sect.

try to make a connection between this, “wave of anti-Semitism has swept over Ukraine” https://forward.com/opinion/401518/violent-anti-semitism-is-gripping-ukraine-and-the-government-is-standing/
and this, “Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine” https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727

The Logo of ADL has a universalist message. It’s a globe with a banner strangling and encircling the earth with ADL printed on it.

The message is not subtle.

Somehow, I’m not surprised, which is why I say that Jews and Muslims deserve each other, and should be bottled up in the ME together and forgotten. In case neither of you noticed, the vast majority of the people in the West are neither Jews, nor Muslims, and we don’t care about your religions, or your phony erudition, and we certainly have no desire to be coached up or converted by any of you. We’re better than fine without you. Hopefully, without out-group distractions, we can deal with out own Judaized/Zionized crooked elites, and your groups can fight it out in the ME in peace.

Jewish Racism, supremacist, ethnocentrism, religious fundamentalists !!! As a “rationalist” catholic I often find myself at odds with Judaism…Jews claim that The Old/New Testament are all lies but that the Talmud, Kaballah, are not…Divine Inspiration, how do you prove that?God talked to Abraham its unproven and absurd.. All of the N.Testament (jesus) miracles are false, but the jewish Miracles in the Old Testamnet are not?? Just because religious books like the Talmud are old It doesn make them all true. All books written by men (humans) are bound to be fallible, verify by another Human still fallible…There are many religious texts that are much older than the Talmud, Kaballah…Popol Vuh, Summerian, Hopis, Egyptian Gnostics =source for Judaism??). The Palestinians (philistines) were in Canaan LONG before the jews (will of God), Jerusalem was founded under Muslim rule, There never was, never has been a country named Israel before 1948..never…there were jewish clans, tribes, kingdoms. How can jews be the chosen people of God and advocate the rape, murder, of other human beings (non jews), saying that stealing robbing, defrauding, burning them, use them for vile evil purposes its all ok in Harlem NYork blacks kids run away from Unmarked white Vans the rumor is that there is a pedo/Talmudic/mafia of rabbis that used young children for rites of passage for ordained rabbis to satisfy their most darkest degenerate instincs…isn’t that ultra murderous sociopathological psychotic sickness…? Jews are not the smartest people on earth MOST human development arts, sciences, industry, sports, commerce, travel, technology ACHIEVE by Gentiles NON jews…I heard that Jewish moguls control the billions rap music industry.(all music).how many rap songs did they write??? I used to believe the rags to riches Hollywood moguls stories, until one day I learnt that Jews compose exclusionary close ghetto subcultures societies that from birth formed a circle of nepotism,..attend same schools, synagogues, sports, clubs,etc. When a yound jew graduates from University, his DAD calls his friends and secures a well paying job for the young man in a powerful corporate structure (Movie Studio) the young jew joins the mail room earning much more tha the other employees, within 5yrs the young Hebrew learnt ALL aspects of studio business and waits patiently to be placed as a CEO…this will never happen to a smart, talented, hard working NON jew..never…

My group pays through the nose and grovels for many things that it has and hasn’t done, to no avail.

I’ll believe in Jewish introspection and contrition when I see it, as it’s not a Jewish strong point. There was none of either after the Bolshevik and post-Weimar tragedies, so I don’t think it’s in them. Either way, I’m not holding my breath, and don’t expect to see any tears shed for them if things go bad for them, since everything is too obvious this time around.

I’ve lived in Jewish neighborhoods all my life. I know all about keeping a kosher kitchen and draining all the blood at the slaughter house and soaking meat in salt water aka brining and cooking it very well done so it isn’t pink and the rest of it.

Your mothers cooking has nothing to do with the article by the way

John 6

http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/YurovskyNoteEnglish.html

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/nicholas.htm

http://www.renegadetribune.com/jewish-murder-russian-imperial-family/

posted:
“Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine” ”

This is a excellent refutation of the fake ‘Nazi’ narrative.

If these guys who Israel is arming were Jew history ‘Nazis’, Israel certainly would not be giving them weapons. It’s an admission by Israel that the ’6M Jews’ is fake.

http://www.codoh.com

Can we keep on the topic?

I don’t hate Jews, I just wish they would leave us alone and stop trying to always interfere with other countries, now they have their own country and can concentrate on that. That should be easy for them to do if they have the 180-plus IQ that they claim, no need to piggyback on anyone.

P.S. Yes, other nations and/or ethnicities also can be an occasional pain in the ass, but not with the same frequency apparently

Called it. Do I get a cupie doll?

If Jews were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.
I mean, get serious.

http://www.codoh.com

When a jew comes out and announces he is a jew I am instantly favorably inclined because I am an honest and good willed person. I want a jew to write something positive that can give me hope of some kind of salvation from this criminal gang of child sacrificers through jews dealing with their own filth.

Unfortunately, Steve Naidamast merely confirms that jews have absolutely no clue what is going on. Take this:

So Steve is telling us goyim not to worry because, after our homelands have been invaded and our people genocided, jews will no longer be so judaically mean spirited.

But the real issue is their sinister plans that will come to fruition long before “all things have passed”.

Cern is clearly a Rothschild globalist operation that keeps all their rituals and secret occultist gateways secret from stupid goyim. Eretz Israel nears completion as the middle east is completely fragmented and the ZOG puppets US and Nato prepare for war with Iran. The US embassy has moved to Jerusalem while Trump turns a blind eye to continuing jewish land thefts, and Bibi is getting ready to blow up the dome and start construction of the third temple. Through talpiot, Mossad has access to all our electronic information that has ever existed and soon will have genetic and biometric data on us all. The jew media/tech control grid marches forward in lock step with holocaust denial and hate legislation.

That a jew would find none of this disturbing is precisely what we would expect from a racial supremacist.

Totally fine; why should you?

Of course, this is your opinion – which is fine; I’ve met plenty of Westerners that disagree.

This is also fine – I take no offense to this; as I’ve mentioned plenty of times before – if this reflects the position from a super-majority of Westerners, then it is perfunctory to get laws passed reflecting the the will of this super-majority to the intended effect; expulsion and/or criminalization of Muslims and Islam (and perhaps Jews/Judaism, but that’s going to be a tougher nut to crack).

Peace.

to the intended effect; expulsion and/or criminalization of Muslims and Islam

You know that is not going to happen and it’s not because of anything that Muslims have contributed to our society.

Don’t object to any of this, and I’m not Jewish in the religious sense and only half Jewish ethnically. I don’t identify with any group.

) Just pointing out Jewish behavior is perfectly normal when seen as part of intra-group conflict. As adults we should recognize this.

2) Pointing out that Jewish religion also has a Universalist streak and an appreciation for goyim as well – whether individual Jews always adhere to this is another story.

3) Not really relevant to my main points, but as a tangent, Europeans seemed to regress and de-dvolve into individualism (primitive morality) and materialism (primitive intellectuality) when they cut themselves off from the main spiritual currents of the world and tried to go it alone, which may or may not be unique to Europeans but simply what happens to anyone who separated from the main spiritual traditions.

As for all the other stuff, I agree with you and many but not all other commenters here in much of what you are saying.

But I have had my say and don’t really have anything more to add, so good day to you all and I shall be bowing out.

Talha – OT, and I hope Ron permits this brief excursion, what Dune books do you recommend I read?

My question for users of this site is where in the frackin hel is the so-called smart fraction of 160 IQ whites and how did they let these foreign fools take over their country? Are the Jews well and truly the master race, because they seem to have become so by default.

I am an avid reader of history; I have zero delusions about what human beings are capable of given the mix of the necessary factors and environment. There are people selling people in Libya. Prof. Jonathan AC Brown once wrote about how he met a Bosnian man who mentioned that his uncle was shot by his best friend (a Serb or Croat, I forget) of many, many years during the civil war. I don’t know how many Jews are in Baghdad now, but they lived there before since time immemorial. And I can go on and on with plenty of examples…

Will it happen? I have no clue – we live in an unprecedented age with an unprecedented mix of factors.

In the case it does, I appeal to the culturally-inherited sense of rule-of-law and just ask people to keep it legal – it’s not much to ask honestly.

Peace.

All of the first three:
Dune, Dune Messiah and Children of Dune

The rest are space-opera in my opinion (everyone is a critic), though God Emperor of Dune has some good points.

Peace.

Actual location of the rolling hills where the inspiration for that song took place is in suburban central Maryland, not far from DC, if you can believe DC can be so close to heaven.

In Catholicism, Holy Communion is a magical ritual in which the priest turns bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ through a magical incantation and ritual. Catholics believe that the bread and wine turn into the actual body and blood of Christ, and they consume the body and blood.

The incorporation of human blood and flesh and their consumption is not unusual in religious magic. It’s a central part of Catholicism, one of the world’s largest religions.

Are the Jews well and truly the master race,

They are not the master race; they are the chosen race by God, and that is an uphill fight because God does not play fair.

Thanks!

What about Wagner?

Learned-sounding theory but that’s about it.

More of that Islamic revisionist history.

The WASP elite dealt with the Jewish challenge just fine before WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dodd_(ambassador)

William Dodd, FDR’s ambassador to the Third Reich, explained how:

Jewish numbers at Ivy League schools were strictly limited by quota.

Elite business institutions like law firms and banks were segregated by religion. There were WASP, Catholic, and Jewish banks and law firms. The WASP banks and law firms were more important.

Social institutions were similarly segregated, and restrictive real estate covenants prevented Jews from moving into places like Greenwich, Connecticut or Manhattan’s elite co-ops. The PGA nearly adopted a bylaw prohibiting Jewish golfers, but relented owing to Southern opposition (Jews have long been present in the South and were traditionally conservative unlike Northern Jews).

While there were very rich Jewish businessmen (e.g. the Warburgs and Gerard Swope), the richest and most powerful were largely old stock Americans. Ford, Sloan, du Pont, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Astor, Morgan, etc.

There was a Jewish press, but the largest press barons in the country were Hearst, McCormick, and Graham. Radio was initially dominated by General Electric, Westinghouse, and AT&T. Even the Jewish-owned cinema business accepted censorship by America’s still powerful churches after films like Baby Face provoked widespread outrage.

The New Deal and WW2 changed everything. FDR destroyed America.

The New Deal destroyed the financial might of old money WASPs, and WW2 radically transformed social attitudes in the North. Anti-trust pressure led America’s great electronics corporations to exit the broadcasting business. The Vietnam War fatally discredited what was left of the WASP establishment.

Incidentally while not a WASP myself, I grew up around old money WASPs. Moderate antisemitism is still very common among them, particularly once the gin and blow come out. They still see themselves as completely superior to the Jews, but have no idea that they have lost their country.

They have some amusing stereotypes about the Jews which, upon investigation, turn out to be correct. One of them is that the Jews always draw their blinds/curtains. I drove through a Jewish suburb to investigate this, and sure enough they do.

“The majority of traditional hadith sources state that Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents’ home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham, when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

It is rather absurd for an Englishman to point out that Jews came into conflict with every society in which they settled when the history of England is one of such incessant conflict that they had to scour the world for people to fight.

For two thousand years the English have been conquered and settled by different groups. Many different identity groups make up England. In order to keep peace between them all, they developed English Common Law. This was a great boon to all of humanity.

The Jews on the other hand, in the last two thousand years, developed the Talmud – a hate filled screed that has led to Israel and the killing of med girls and the shooting off of boy legs.

In the last two thousand years, Christians did good – Jews evil.

Think Peace — Do No Harm – Maintain Idealistic Christianity — Art

http://jesusneverexisted.com

You forgot about the lack of scruples.
Also:
https://www.thoughtco.com/characteristics-of-the-psychopathic-personality-973128 “The study of the psychopath reveals an individual who is incapable of feeling guilt, remorse, or empathy for their actions.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/18/why-psychopaths-are-so-good-at-getting-ahead.html

“Those who are born with psychopathy can be dangerous. They are also often very successful in ascending to positions of power.”

Pointing out that Jewish religion also has a Universalist streak and an appreciation for goyim as well – whether individual Jews always adhere to this is another story.

At least 85% of US Jews do not appreciate US Gentiles. By using false charges – they coerce Americans into supporting apartheid Israel.

Your words are clearly disingenuous at best, mendacious in the least.

You make comment after comment that says that Jews are both victims and no different than other groups. Both lies.

Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

It sure scandalizes me.

Oilcan: God talks to you. Listen to his subtleties with your heart, not your ears.

Tahla,

Option 4: Join Nasrallah and the Resistance and do something about those who always break the rules

Hasan Nasrallah: “We believe that God Almighty is the creator of this existence, and of human beings and of all creatures. When he created us, he gave us capabilities; he gave us these bodies, he gave us psychological and spiritual capabilities. We call it instinct. People in isolation from religious laws, they have an instinct. They have an instinct to tell the truth. Their instinct tells them that truth is good; that lying is bad; that justice is good; that injustice is bad; that helping poor people and unjustly treated people is a good thing. But attacking people and shedding their blood, this is horrible. The issue of resisting hegemony, or resisting occupation, or resisting any attack against our people, this is a moral issue, and an instinctive one, and a human one. Now God also wanted it like this, so in this sense, moral and human principles are consistent with the law of the heavens, because the Abrahamic religions didn’t come up with anything that contradicts the mind or contradicts the human instinct because the creator of the religion is the same as the creator of the humans, and the two things are totally consistent.”

One of the great secrets of war that the western interventionists will never remotely acknowledge (#metoo) is that rape by conquering men of conquered women is an essential feature of occupation. Everyone I have ever met in the armed forces acknowledges this as obvious when I frame it strategically. I always stop short of asking if they’ve done it or witnessed it. What’s the point. In other words if you don’t do it you seriously hamper the likelihood of eventually winning the long battle.

Are you talking about reprisals or just raping because you can? If it is effective policy, then why were the American negroes doing 80% of the raping? It seems like the German occupation of France was relatively free of rape, no?

If you never consider that the other side might have the upper hand, then I suppose a massacre of men, and taking the women as forced wives has a certain logic to it, as ISIS did. Or just plain ethnic cleansing like the British did, which has the advantage of not creating a halfway point race between conquering and conquered.

None of this explains why those particular Palis were killed then in that area. Was it in response to something? Or just to cow them? Why? Shahak knew.

Tahla,

Have you been reading Rumi or his father, Bahauddin Walad recently? I ask this because of this line:
“Run from God’s will to God’s will”. It is very much in the style of Rumi and Wahad’s thinking, and it sounds like something from those who wear the wooly habits.

Frankie P

Aisha dictated her memoirs. Read them. She said she was married at age 6. She should know

They are interesting. Her father was the most important local sheik, Abu Bakr. From the day of the marriage, Ali, Mohammad’s nephew and adopted son, and Fatima his oldest daughter plotted against Aisha and her very important father who was Mohammad’s right hand man and controlled his own tribal army.

It’s standard dynastic struggle.

Douglas Murray said of Islam that there are three possible sources of bad behaviour – the Koran, Sharia Law, and Muslims themselves. The Koran and Sharia Law do not give much cause for hope; but Muslims themselves do. By this I think he meant that nearly all Muslims do not follow the murderous instructions in the Koran, or apply the extreme punishments sanctioned by Sharia.

The same is true of Judaism. The Talmud might not give much cause for hope, but nearly all Jews, whatever their virtues or vices, do not pay much attention to it.

Few people nowadays care in the slightest about the opinions of rabbis that were written down many centuries ago. Spare some pity for the trainee rabbi who finds that he must master many volumes of this turgid and boring material.

Many Jews’ experience of religion will be similar to those of Mr Unz himself, dragged along to synagogue by his grandmother when he would rather be watching cartoons.

Now, if a dissident rabbi were to tell us that witchcraft and demon-worship were being taught at yeshiva today, along with hostility to the goyim, then his story would deserve close attention. In the meantime I will file the unattractive parts of the Talmud and Jewish folk religion along with other absurd but widespread historical beliefs, such as witchcraft, medical treatment by trepanning, and augury by examination of the spilt guts of a sacrificial animal.

Reminds me how the blind/curtain thing was freaking me out in Germany. Each time I looked through the window I could see like 30 flats across the street with almost all the rooms, and often, their inhabitants visible to me. And this was commonplace almost everywhere. I was never used to this in France, and this is quite alien in mediterranean countries too afaik. I remembered having read long ago that this is a protestant thing and the Dutch were known for this, so perhaps this is a commin cultural trait all the way through northern Germany where I was staying?
In any case it felt a bit like a panopticon

Wow

Hey FrankieP – option #4 that you present is subsumed by option #1 from my perspective.

Excellent quote by Nasrallah.

Peace.

The founders of the USA were Freemasons mostly. If you read up on Freemasonry, it is not godless nor is it pared down.

I suppose godless may not be a requirement but, you want to keep your high IQ people and actually become higher IQ over time. I think one main reason that Christianity is abandoned these days is that it is very easy for someone of reasonable intelligence to understand scientific explanations for why things are, and that removes the god from the machine, as it were.

My thoughts are that whatever axioms you build your group evolutionary strategy on top of, they don’t seem like hogwash.

Solzhenitsyn is not well loved in Russia, for a multitude of reasons. One of them is that he is the Right’s Elie Wiesel, playing loose and fast with data and pulling emotional heartstrings when needed. Unlike Wiesel, no one on the Right bothers to see if the things he says are true.

The accusation that the USSR was funded by and run by Jews is a hundred year old story. We have heard about Jacob Schiff (and his daughter’s marriage to Max Warburg, who helped with the Nazi banks) and the money he loaned to ‘Russian’ revolutionaries – but we never heard how much was offered and whether or not that money truly financed the whole of the movement.

According to Rudolf Germar of IHR, Jews only controlled around 30% or so of the entire USSR makeup. This is confirmed by the NKVD lists of all its members. It is not 80% or 70%. Later on, Unz makes a remark of the scores killed by the JewSSR, but does not give a tally. I suspect it is Solzhenitsyn’s 66 million, or perhaps 80 million, whatever strikes the highest. But we know from the declassified archival data that the Repressions did not kill nearly as much, and the gulag had as many prisoners as the US did in its prisons.

Suspicions are just that – suspicions. Since you admit you do not know enough about Medieval history, it is fair to let this slide, but you cannot make bold statements without evidence to back it up.

If we start with the assumption that Jewish tax farmers controlled the peasants, it then follows that the Gentile peasants were none the wiser to acknowledge their slave masters and were not intelligent enough to form their own economies.

The statement that Jews helped William the Conqueror subjugate his Anglo-Saxon subjects is not backed up by any evidence; it would help Unz’s thesis if he did. By doing so, the Normans would have just been siccing the Jews on Anglo-Saxons, and again, the Anglo Saxons would have been none the wiser towards these pernicious Jews.

Again, we have more use of unsure words, as if Unz does not know if Jews controlled the slave trade in the Medieval Era or not. We are not offered data and statistics; it is merely taken as fact. The only source I can think of off the top of my head for this is the online Jewish Encyclopedia, and even that gives sporadic primary sources.

We see the word ‘enormous’ again, as we did with the ‘enormous’ role of Jews in the USSR. There is a better book that refutes Farrakhan’s thesis with data: Eli Faber’s Jews, Slaves, and the Slave Trade. It is far more nuanced.

I have heard about Jews spitting curses at Christian cemeteries and refusing to help Christians or non-Jews on holy days, but the responses have been very nuanced. I did see an Israeli secular pamphlet which discusses this, so there is that.

Let’s consider this argument in its entirety. Before the Bolshevik Revolution, Russia was almost entirely foreign owned. Its banks were foreign owned, and so were its industries. Nothing was ‘Russian’ about Russia. We can assume who ran things then. So, then comes the Jewish Bolsheviks, and after them, Jewish oligarchs. Putin is also considered to be a member of the Chabad mafia, or at least has Jewish blood himself. Russia hasn’t been Russian for centuries, and the Russians are too dumb to notice. That is, if that argument is taken to its conclusion.

The USSR was also fervently anti Zionist. A mass emigration of Jews occurred in the 1970s, to which Russia was adamantly criticized for. Anti-Semitism, AFAIK, wasn’t outlawed. If you criticized Jews like Soros, you weren’t arrested.

Hitler’s economic achievements are mentioned, as well as his socialist policies. We do not talk about the same growth experienced in the USSR under Stalin, mostly because that is too touchy or would undermine the central thesis of Jewish control. A full discussion of the USSR is in need, but the article unfortunately rehashes many of the same claims echoed by other scholars and commentators in this neck of the woods, often without primary sources or context.

The article itself is jumbled, going from one subject to the next, without offering new content that can really change the course on this tenacious issue. Much has been said by Kevin MacDonald, more my E. Michael Jones, and of course there is no limit among places like Renegade Tribune. The issue of the Talmud is worthy of interest, mainly because there has been discussion from secular Israelis on its attitude towards women and non-Jews, but aside from a few vocal rabbis, there weren’t many examples offered. Ariel Sharon could have been a great example, but he was not used.

The pieces on Medieval Jewry and the USSR scenario were very weak. You can write a series on Trotsky and how he was perceived by his fellow Bolsheviks, or even Lenin’s attitude to the murder of the Royal Family. It’s an intriguing bit of history, but wasn’t explored here. One thing I’ve come to expect is that people on this side are very keen on data of Jewish influence in media, economics and banking, but do not offer percentages. Those Who Can See offered one on the percentage of Jews in Ivy League schools, and they were around 30%. If we account for Jewish nepotism, then it can be deduced this percentage is not due to talent and intelligence alone. But I digress.

I am reminded of that quote from Sanhedrin 59a. I’ll paraphrase it: “If the Gentile ever discovers what we Jews are up to, our world will end.” Of course, the actual quotation is much different. But the point remains. Jews are sneaky, we are stupid to believe their lies. We must uncover them at every turn.

So why not start at the beginning? A true, honest assessment of the JQ. It can be done.

You didn’t mention that “Va, pensiero,” from the opera Nabucco, is known in English as the “Chorus of the Hebrew Slaves.” Rome is nice, but in the summer go to Verona.

http://overture-classictic.com/index.php/2018/06/13/arena-di-verona-opera-festival/

Germanics are high-trust and egalitarian. This reaches its peak in North America where houses don’t even have fences (though backyards sometimes do), and traditional homes have front porches.

Meds are conspiratorial and suspicious. I suspect this Jewish stereotype stems from the fact the fact that the Jews are in fact Meds.

Traditional Med homes have enclosed courtyards.

No, he was very much a real person. He was a funny, chill guy, very likeable in fact. He did not look like a stereotypical Jew though. Looking back on it, he was very verbally adept, very fast on his feet verbally, so I think that he most certainly had a good amount of authentic Jewish blood.

And you do get ginger Jews. Zuck, Seth Rogen, Seth Green, all are pretty Jewy. But they are the exceptions that prove the rule.

I won’t tell you how we came to be passing by churches, but I will say that when we passed by churches, he spat. I’m atheist, but with a relatively Christian upbringing so it stuck in my mind.

I think many if not most Semitically-aware people have had experiences with Jews IRL. I had a Jewish girlfriend at one point too. If you are a high IQ goy you have a very good chance of interacting with Jews through the circles you travel.

1. Dante’s muse was Virgil, pre-Christian. Virgil’s Aeneid dominated the Mediterranean/Roman empire world for ~ 100 years while Christianity was taking root. Likewise, Cicero was broadly popular in the same era; similarly with Cicero’s De Officiis.

Thus it can be said that Virgil and Cicero –> influenced the development of Catholicism–> influenced Dante and Verdi.

2. Machiavelli abhorred the Roman Catholic papacy/institutional church of his era, but never left home without his Dante.

3. Va, Pensiero conveys numerous insights: Whatever else can be surmised from Shahak’s writing on Judaism, we know that it was (and is) a political structure first and foremost: inherent in Judaism is a mechanism of control by authority, by coercive means, over the larger group. It’s focus was not the aesthetic; for Jews, Psalm 137, the basis of Va, Pensiero, is about territorial possession and control, and vengeance.
Near its beginning, Ps. 137 says it will NOT sing songs, because Judah is captive:

There on the poplars
we hung our harps,
for there our captors asked us for songs,
our tormentors demanded songs of joy;
they said, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”
How can we sing the songs of the Lord
while in a foreign land?

But to Verdi, songmaking is salvific; that’s the message of Orpheus. So Verdi reframes Psalm 137:

[the chorus explodes:]
Arpa d’or dei fatidici vati, . Golden harp of our prophets,
perché muta dal salice pendi? . why do you hang silently on the willow?
Le memorie nel petto raccendi, . Rekindle the memories of our hearts,
ci favella del tempo che fu! . and speak of the times gone by!

The Hebrew Psalm 137 ends with a curse:

Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is the one who repays you
according to what you have done to us.
Happy is the one who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks.

Verdi’s Va, Pensiero ends with a prayer, sung in hushed tones, and repeated:

o t’ispiri il Signore un concento or permit the Lord to inspire us
che ne infonda al patire virtù! to endure our suffering!

Verdi’s ‘reformation’ of the Hebrew psalm did not go unnoticed by today’s zionists.

First, Va, Pensiero, the ‘national anthem of the Italian people’, has been bowdlerized and turned into a pop tune by a no-talent (but popular nevertheless) Italian Otis Redding wannabe. HIs lyrics turn Verdi’s song to a politically correct pablum of meaninglessness:

Va pensiero . . .
Cross the mountains and fly over the oceans
Reach the land find the place where all children grow
Every night after listening to this lullaby

There you find the heroes alive protecting the innocents
Bless them all ’cause their simple song is so pure and wonderful . . .

Life’s beautiful dream carry on for all night long

. . .
Take them by the hand, help them find an easy way . . .
Where they once used to belong . . .

Imagine the closing of the Star Spangled Banner turned into:

“O say does that rainbow banner still wave
O’er all bathrooms in ‘merica
and the Mex-i-can border . . .”

The second assault on Va, Pensiero occurred in an Intelligence 2 debate: Wagner vs. Verdi.

(Bear in mind: Va, Pensiero is the unofficial Italian national anthem: watch carefully in the video where Muti directs the chorus; at “O mia patria, si bella et perduta,” the audience flings programs in the air, the chorus rises to standing and raise their voices. It is an appeal to emotion and patriotism.)

In the debate, Verdi’s champion is the Jewish pundit Norman Lebrecht; he says,

Lebrecht: a Jew so infused with his own narcissism that he entirely misses the fact that Verdi reformed the iconic psalm of the Jewish people and of zionism; he turned Psalm 137 from a paean to the Yahwist god of sullenness and murderous vengeance to the Christian god of love for nature, and beauty, and one’s fellows; and a plea for divine aid to forebear.

A history of the Italian people that I started reading recently opened with the statement, “Italians are a people who endure; over the many long years of Italian history, they have learned to suffer and persist.”

But this is one Italian who is no longer willing to suffer fools the likes of Norman Lebrecht.

Long live Verdi!

Long live Ricardo Muti!

Viva Italia, Mia patria, si bella et perduta!

And as my Mother would have said, Va fa Napoli Lebrecht, Verdi and Va Pensiero belong to Italy.

Game Theory gets you most of the way there – it’s an empirical regularity that “generous tit for tat” is the most profitable strategy in games where there is short-term profit from defection, and long-term profit from cooperation.

Generous tit for tat has very simple strictures:
① cooperate first;
② defect iff your counterparty defects;
③ if caught in a “defect/defect” cycle, cooperate to break the cycle

If there’s a known end-point, the game collapses to “defect” as the optimal first move, through an iterative process back from the dominant move at the last move being ‘defect’ (because the counterparty can’t retaliate since the game ends).

This might seem unrelated to ethical questions, but the payoff structure for respecting vs non-respecting others’ rights (e.g., physical person and property) has exactly this structure.

Add to this, the issue of ‘reputation’: if an individual or group is known to defect ‘at the last round’ in their dealings, they will find it difficult to find new trades.

It sounds kind of abstract, but it simply formalises – using the minimum possible set of behavioural rules – a mechanism that yields the highest-payoff general equilibrium (and the only equilibrium that is also Pareto-optimal).

(It is also the exact opposite of how politics works, which makes it axiomatic that politics is a disequilibrium and is welfare-reducing for anyone who’s not attached to the political class).

So if you want an ethical world, get people to behave game-theoretically. People do kind-of try to anyhow – using heiristics, mostly (“Don’t deal with X – he’s not to be trusted”) – but it’s a mindset that should be taught formally to children from a young age.

Anyhow… point is, in most situations the ethical outcome is obvious, and can be ascertained with reasonable precision without reference to a gallimaufry of psychotic nonsense from folks who believed in demonic possession, the Evil Eye, and whose foundational myth revels in blood sacrifice, genital mutilation, genocide, incest, and bad faith.

It pays to be extremely wary of anyone who claims that religion is the basis for their ethical standards; it either means that they are ethical dilettantes who click ‘accept’ on the EULA of their religion-of-choice without reading it… or they have read the canonical literature of their religion-of-choice and liked what it said.

In the latter case, those people are psychopaths – which makes it less surprising when they tie boxes to their heads and rock like mental patients, muttering nonsense in a dead language.

While I love the poems of Mawlana Rumi (ra), that is not the source. That was actually based off an interaction the second caliph, Umar (ra), had with another Companion.

He was traveling towards a certain region when he received word that his intended destination was beset by plague. He made a decision to turn back to Madinah. When the other Companion heard this he asked Umar (ra); “O Umar, are you running away from the decree of God?”

And the caliph simply replied; “Yes, I am running from God’s decree to God’s decree.”

The simple point being, one does not know what God’s decree is until it actually occurs – so the wise way to go about things is to make proper preparation and execute actions in hopes of the best outcome.

Peace.

This has been handled before – the key thing is that high-IQ people tend to reject nationalist/trialist drivel because they can spot an attempt at indoctrination a mile off. That’s true for both Jews and Gentiles, but it’s more true for Gentiles – and it only has to be slightly less-true for Jews, to explain the observed facts (over-representation of smart Jews in bureaucracies, academia, and politics; under-representation of smart Jews in the military officer cadre, police forces, firefighters and paramedics).

(Use ‘in general’ liberally throughout the paragraphs below).

Firstly: an IQ of 160 is the top 0.0032% of the IQ distribution.

That level of processing power is more curse than blessing: those folks’ introspection is off the charts, and they tend to be socially isolated – and to “underperform” economically, if “wealth” or “income” is considered the appropriate metric (which it isn’t: risk-adjusted return on effort is the right metric). Square pegs are not useful in any sort of society-wide group endeavour.

But let’s say we back it back 1.5σ, and get oourselves some functional smart people with ‘normal’ objectives… then ask the same question about the top 1% of high-IQ Gentiles.

Again, it’s kind of obvious.

Smart Gentiles do not act qua Gentile; they act qua “smart person”.

They are not prepared to sacrifice personal return in order to further the aims of ‘Gentiles’ as a whole: they are not part of some over-arching (if weak, for some high-IQ Jews) “shared vision” or “project”.

For example, a 135-IQ Gentile will not become a State Department lawyer on $150k a year in order to further some agenda that’s “good for the Gentiles”, when they could become an Associate at a major firm and make a million bucks a year.

A non-trivial proportion of high-IQ Jews will take the job at State (or elsewhere in the bureaucracy, academia etc): in that environment they are competing against Gentile also-rans, and so the bright folks wipe the floor with the competition and dominate the hierarchy.

That doesn’t have to involve a conspiracy or any deviation from meritocracy: the person making the selection chooses the Jewish candidate because the Jewish candidate is objectively superior to other candidates.

The end result though is that it functions as if it is a conspiracy – and once the hierarchy is dominated by Jewish individuals, second-rate Jewish aspirants can rely on simple in-group biases (plus the Peter Principle) to get further, faster, than they would otherwise.

TL;DR: smart Gentiles aren’t interested in some silly Game of Thrones, where the “thrones” in question pay a fifth of what the smart Gentile can attract when he pursues his own objectives.

Earlier you said that you are Shia on gulf conservative council or something similar. You have read the hadiths .

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).

Contemporary examples

Turkey’s directorate of religious affairs (Diyanet) said in January 2018 that under Islamic law, girls as young as nine can marry.

“Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this” — Ishaq Akintola, professor of Islamic Eschatology and Director of Muslim Rights Concern, Nigeria

“There is no minimum marriage age for either men or women in Islamic law. The law in many countries permits girls to marry only from the age of 18. This is arbitrary legislation, not Islamic law.” — Dr. Abd Al-Hamid Al-‘Ubeidi, Iraqi expert on Islamic law

There is no minimum age for marriage and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.” — Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council

“Islam does not forbid marriage of young children.” — Pakistan’s Council of Islamic Ideology

It takes enormous courage and an almost superhuman dedication to truth to tackle a subject like this one, and reach the conclusions you did, knowing the calumny and ostracism that will ensue. That said, I need to read the works you cite, and others, before I am fully persuaded.

TL:DR so you’re saying the problem is individualism and lack of a larger cause?

Thank you. Amazing analysis!

This thread went from bad to worse

That was awful

perhaps, some have been reconditioned to a degree of cognitive damage. We are born good.
“The moral life of babies”:

The authour Mr Unz, is I fear in danger of going off on the deep end like the lamented Bobby Fischer (as noted by utu above). I understand the deep fear of Jews regarding the ‘blood libel’, since it taps very primitive instincts and can be seen as a warrant for genocide.

Jews among their other qualities, have a hyperactive imagination. These reports of Satanic rituals all smack of creative recall.