KOSMOPOLITIKA 14.07.- BUDITE OPTIMISTI! "NIŠTA VI JOŠ NISTE VIDJELI!" 3,617 viewsPremiered Jul 14, 2021

KOSMOPOLITIKA 14.07.- BUDITE OPTIMISTI! "NIŠTA VI JOŠ NISTE VIDJELI!"
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KOSMOPOLITIKA 14.07.- BUDITE OPTIMISTI! "NIŠTA VI JOŠ NISTE VIDJELI!"
Summary:
Sve je ovo oko knjigovodstva, deltoidi, lamboidi, G-20 samit video konferencija- sve je po planu- Dizniland- mora nesto da se menja- kriza zbog svetske vlade koja je vec tu; lazni novac na dodjem ti; bankostan- novi poredak; kultura, moral, sistem vrednost, kultura- virtualni sistem, enormno duzni; univerzalni porez; kompletno poslovanje ce ici preko interneta; bez gotovinski novac; karbonska taksa umesto carinskih povisica; era novih licemrrja; lokalne ekonomije nisu potrebne; zelena industrija i revolucija dolazi; mora se ziveti zivot od realnih prihoda; bez inflacija; sve je po planu, kompletna transformacija Diznilanda; stvarni i izmisljeni poslovi; administracija i privreda; do sada je ekonomija bila pokrice i pravan za politicare; deficitarni poslovi ce poskupeti; a inflacija(nase cistiliste) ce unistiti izmisljene-neproduktivne poslove/ekonomiju; puna zaposlenost=dizniland; reset= menjanje kompletne paradigme- novi raspored prihoda/i raspodela unutar zajednice/zona u svetu novih ne realnosti; gospodar pravi novi sistem, bice vam lakse; mi smo sada u novom svetu; generacije koje nisu ziveli od realnih prihoda, nece vise moci; smak sveta; transmisija suverenosti?; exploatacija jadarita/lithiuma; ulazimo u novo knjigovodstvo koje ce jos vise biti virtuelno; peglanje starih gresaka i vodjenje produktivne ekonomije; kreacija i odrzavanje diznilanda da se sprecavaju revelucije i da se mase zabljavaju; ulazimo u faze haosa i da se nikada ne vidi bilans dosadasnjeg poslovanja; ulazimo u skromniju ekonomiju; mi smo vodili do sada, i od sada, a mase naucili da slusaju; pocinje pozoriste na mnogim i paralelnim scenama; morace se naci krivac za urusavanje sadasnjeg Diznilenda; dali ce biti efikasnije knjigovodstvo ili i dalje nepostenije i vizionarsko eksploatatorski odnosi/ko ce vladati; bice kriva omladina koja nije htela da se vakcinise, i sve djavo odneo?

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16 Comments


Viktor Aleksikj
2 days ago
JEDNO MOJE MISLJENJE...OVA EMISIJA BI TREBALO SE SNIMITI PA SE OPET PUSTITI TAMO NEKE 2030....

Pero Chessmaster
2 days ago
Da tacno, oni vec znaju da dolazi Delta..Ali Delta ce na jesen da mutira ? recimo u Uragan...koji ce kasnije da preraste u Omegu...Ali Omega ce vremenom da slabi u Alfa Romeo...I tako u krug...


Mila Arnaut
1 day ago
Danas "diznilend" nekada gladijatorske borbe. Kako stvari stoje, nacionalni stadioni će poslužiti upravo za završnu fazu diznilenda. Ništa mi još nismo videli.

dragan dugonja
2 days ago
"Chaos in South Africa 'intensifies' ">jedan od clanova G20(primjer medjuljudskih odnosa)

Nada Petkovic
2 days ago
https://youtu.be/asqN_onCD94https://youtu.be/asqN_onCD94https://youtu.be/asqN_onCD94


Gordana Markovic
2 days ago
Jedino ovog coveka slusam, ima fenomenalnu ekipu!
Koliko vidim, ponovo cemo kalajisati serpe i lonce i popravljati kisobrane ...
Najgore je sto svi mi placamo ceh rasipnika, a zivimo skromno.


Viktor Aleksikj
2 days ago
Jbg...NEKAD treba I pomoci od BOGA direktno....Evo primer...ja kad Sam dosao na vrhunac da mesec. platom +5500$. Uvodeo Sam da je sve OVO samo Sarena laza I sve NAPUSTIO I dosao na selo ziveti...I Evo nikad mi Nije bilo bolje...DOK SVI strepe sta CE biti sutra...ja uzivam u ZIVOTU I nikad nisam bio srecniji....a pare...PARA JE VADODUSNICA...POZZ


Milovan Radosavljevic
2 days ago
Postovani Aleksandre.
Hvala ti na ovim lepim analizama stanja u svetu,uzrocima i posledicama koje prozivljavamo.Moram priznati da mi je ponekad teze pratiti iako ti prilicno pojednostavljeno i slikovito prezentiras pojmove kojima se bavis.Tesi me cinjenica da dosta tvoji pratilaca ima veci problema u prepoznavanju sustine od mene samog sto se moze videti u komentarima.Preraspodela prirodnih resursa kao i resursa ljudskog rada i znanja su glavan preokupacija onih koji vode poredak i tako je od vajkada.Nadam se da si u pravu kad kazes da su ovaj puta odlucili da na novi nacin urade transformaciju poredka sa nizim intezitetom nasilja i represije bar za sada.Jedino sto me muci neznam dali pripadam budalama ili fukarama posto sam budzetski korisnik iz zdrastveni razloga.
Zelim ti jes mnogo dobrih emisija i mnogo pratilaca kojim ces pomoci da spoznaju bolje svet u kakvom zive.Zivio.


sabina pkj
2 days ago
Hvala Sasa. Sve jasno.


Ljiljana Klajic
2 days ago
Hvala,veliki pozdrav iz Toronta


Mikeli Perović
1 day ago
A za nas na Balkanu nema zime.Mi smo ovo vec prosli tako da nije nikakvo iznenadjenje.I Jezda i Dafina i komplet urusena ekonomija tako da novi diznilend vec funkcionise.Sto veli Sasa, nista se ne bojte mi smo pretece novog poretka.


Marie-Jeanne Kuzmanovic
2 days ago

1 day ago
Dragi Saša, koliko mogu redovno pratim tvoje emisije, pa šta razumem, razumem. Uostalom imaš toliko pohvala od mnogo relevantnijih pratilaca, ja se bavim uglavnom umetničkim disciplinama i zahvalan sam ti na jednostavnom jeziku koj koristiš u svojim izlaganjima. Jasno mi je da je glavni naslov tvojih emisija "Kako se vlada svetom", to jest, otkrivaš nam mehanizme funkcionisanja sveta. I to je sasvim u redu i dovoljno, mađutim, ja kao vrlo impulsivan čovek, pitam se da li mi uopšte možemo sami nešto da uredimo, promenimo, ili je baš sve tako zadato. Naravno, mi u Srbiji ne možemo ni neke osnovne stvari da promenimo, pa je verovatno i glupo pitanje šta možemo ozbiljnije da preduzmemo. U svakom slučaju, nastavi sa svojom misijom, u čemu ti želim mnogo uspeha i nadalje! Hvala!

Čomski: Deset strategija manipulacije ljudima

Siromašnijim slojevima treba onemogućiti pristup mehanizmima razumevanje manipulacije njihovim pristankom. Kvalitet obrazovanja nižih društvenih slojeva treba da bude što slabiji ili ispod proseka, da bi ponor između obrazovanja viših i nižih slojeva ostao nepremostiv.

NOAM ČOMSKI / 14. Oktobar 2013

Na osnovu rada jednog od najuticajnijih svetskih intelektualaca, američkog lingviste Noama Čomskog, donosimo vam spisak od deset strategija manipulacije putem medija.

1)    PREUSMERAVANJE PAŽNJE

Pažnju javnosti preusmeravati sa važnih  problema na nevažne. Prezaposliti javnost poplavom nebitnih informacija, da ljudi ne bi razmišljali i stekli osnovna saznanja u razumevanju sveta.

2)   STVARANJE PROBLEMA
Ta metoda se naziva i “problem-reagovanje-rešenje”. Treba stvoriti problem, da bi deo javnosti reagovao na njega. Na primer: izazvati i prenositi nasilje sa namerom, da javnost lakše prihvati ograničavanje slobode, ekonomsku krizu ili da bi se opravdalo rušenje socijalne države.

3)   POSTUPNOST PROMENA

Da bi javnost pristala na neku neprihvatljivu meru, uvoditi je postepeno, “na kašičicu”, mesecima i godinama. Promene, koje bi mogle da izazovu otpor, ako bi bile izvedene naglo i u kratkom vremenskom roku, biće sprovedene politikom malih koraka. Svet se tako vremenom menja, a da to ne budi svest o promenama.

4)    ODLAGANJE
Još jedan način za pripremanje javnosti na nepopularne promene je, da ih se najavljuje  mnogo ranije, unapred. Ljudi tako ne osete odjednom svu težinu promena, jer se prethodno privikavaju na samu ideje o promeni. Sem toga i “zajednička nada u bolju budućnost” olakšava njihovo prihvatanje.

5)    UPOTREBA DEČIJEG JEZIKA
Kada se odraslima obraća kao kad se govori deci, postižemo dva korisna učinka: javnost potiskuje svoju kritičku svest i poruka ima snažnije dejstvo na ljude.Taj sugestivni mehanizam u velikoj meri se koristi i prilikom reklamiranja.

6)    BUĐENJE EMOCIJA

Zloupotreba emocija je klasična tehnika, koja se koristi u izazivanju kratkog spoja, prilikom razumnog prosuđivanja. Kritičku svest zamjenjuju emotivni impulsi (bes, strah, itd.) Upotreba emotivnog registra omogućava pristup nesvesnom, pa je kasnije moguće na tom nivou sprovesti ideje, želje, brige, bojazni ili prinudu, ili pak izazvati određena ponašanja.

7)    NEZNANJE

Siromašnijim slojevima treba onemogućiti pristup mehanizmima razumevanje manipulacije njihovim pristankom. Kvalitet obrazovanja nižih društvenih slojeva treba da bude što slabiji ili ispod proseka, da bi ponor između obrazovanja viših i nižih slojeva ostao nepremostiv.

8)    VELIČANJE GLUPOSTI

Javnost treba  podsticati u prihvatanju  prosečnosti. Potrebno je ubediti ljude da je (in, u modi), poželjno biti glup, vulgaran i neuk. Istovremeno treba izazivati otpor prema kulturi i nauci.

9)    STVARANJE OSEĆAJA KRIVICE
Treba ubediti svakog pojedinca da je samo i isključivo on odgovoran za sopstvenu nesreću, usled oskudnog znanja, ograničenih sposobnosti, ili nedovoljnog truda. Tako nesiguran i potcenjen pojedinac, opterećen osećajem krivice, odustaće od traženja pravih uzroka svog položaja i pobune protiv ekonomskog sistema.

10) ZLOUPOTREBA ZNANJA
Brz razvoj nauke u poslednjih 50 godina stvara rastuću provaliju između znanja javnosti i onih koji ga poseduju i koriste, vladajuće elite. “Sistem”, zaslugom biologije, neurobiologije i praktične psihologije, ima pristup naprednom znanju o čoveku i na fizičkom i na psihičkom planu.

 

Фашистичка изјава Карла Билта: Православље је претња за западну цивилизацију

Објављено: 10.05.2014.год.

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Запад ипак не може, а да не одоли свом вековном пориву: дешавања у Украјини натерала су Карла Билта, министра спољних послова Шведске, да каже да је православље главна претња Западу, јер се око њега сабира Русија.

Карл Билт, министар спољних послова Шведске (и некадашњи високи представник УН и ЕУ у Б и Х), изјавио је пре три дана да је Русија 90-тих била боља држава него данас, јер је стремила демократији и западним вредностима, а данас стреми православљу.

„У данашњој Русији ситуација је много гора. Путин демонстрира приврженост не међународним вредностима, већ православним. Његова подршка Асаду у Сирији може се објаснити тиме што је Асад штитио православне у Сирији. Поред тога, православље је опасније од исламског фундаментализма и због тога представља највећу опасност за западну цивилизацију.“

The European Court of Justice said the landmark privacy law cannot be enforced beyond the European Union.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/technology/europe-google-right-to-be-forgotten.html?emc=rss&partner=rss&utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral

Sept. 24, 2019Updated 2:00 p.m. ET

LONDON — Europe’s highest court limited the reach of the landmark online privacy law known as “right to be forgotten” on Tuesday, restricting people’s ability to control what information is available about them on the internet.

The ruling to limit the geographical reach of the right to be forgotten is a victory for Google against a Frencheffort to force the company and other search engines to take down links globally.

The court said the right to be forgotten “is not an absolute right.”

 

Google has become a quasi-judicial authority on the right to be forgotten, determining what constitutes private information or not. It has received requests to take down more than 3.3 million links, and has granted about 45 percent, according to company figures.

Joris van Hoboken, a law professor at Vrije Universiteit Brussel who studies privacy policy, said that Tuesday’s decisions were an attempt to maintain an individual’s right to privacy against the public’s right to know, but that the rulings delegated the decision making to Google.

“The assumption is that Google is going to do that balancing well,” Mr. van Hoboken said.

Jonathan Zittrain, a law professor at Harvard University who studies internet privacy, said concerns about the right to be forgotten remained. He said companies risked fines if they fought a takedown request, but weren’t penalized for deleting something.

“This creates asymmetric pressure on corporate decision making that will tilt toward individual demands over the public interest,” Mr. Zittrain said.

Google, which has created an internal team to review takedown requests, deletes links only within the European Union. Most Google searches occur on country-specific sites like Google.fr in France or Google.it in Italy.

But in 2015, the top data-protection regulator in France, known as CNIL, said that Google’s geographically targeted approach didn’t go far enough and that it wanted the company to remove links from its global database. The authority argued that a regional application of the rule was worthless because people could still find the information if they were outside Europe.

Google and other opponents of enlarging the territorial reach, including the Wikimedia Foundation, Microsoft, the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and the Internet Freedom Foundation, argued that people would try to use the rule in Europe to erase unflattering information elsewhere.

“Courts or data regulators in the U.K., France or Germany should not be able to determine the search results that internet users in America, India or Argentina get to see,” Thomas Hughes, executive director of Article 19, a privacy group that supported Google in the case, said in a statement.

The decision leaves open the possibility for France and other national governments in the European Union to force Google to take down links globally in special cases judged necessary to protect an individual’s privacy.

The other case that was decided on Tuesday stemmed from an attempt by several individuals to require Google to remove links to websites found when searching for their names. They argued that certain categories of data, such as information related religion, political beliefs, sex life and past criminal convictions, should be expunged from search results.

The court gave a mixed ruling, saying certain categories of data deserve special consideration but must be weighed against the public’s right to information.

The individuals who brought the case included a politician under investigation, someone convicted of sexual assault against minors and a person referred to as a public relations officer in the Church of Scientology.

Opponents of their demands said removing links would have set a dangerous precedent and made it much easier for information in the public interest to be deleted from the internet.

 Comments:

 - & who decides "what's no longer relevant or not in the public interest"? Just yesterday the NYT ran an article about the perpetrator of a stabbing who successfully got a legitimate news article about his crime taken down & the journalist fired. This law is ridiculous & ripe for abuse. To me, that's just the tip of the information/crime iceberg this law will effectively block the general public knowing about.

It is a money and privacy problem not justice. Another string from Americans to alienate the world : worst polluters, twice the energy consumption of Europeans per capita, pesticides and fertilyzers, and plastic everywhere in the oceans and the food chain and our blood, etc... US firms cheating, invading Europe not paying any taxes, stealing private data and abusing citizens rights .

JPH

Here you can read the philosophy of Americans. No wonder they consume twice the energy per capita than a European, twice the carbon foot print, pollute the world with their pesticides and fertilizers , have put plastic everywhere in oceans, the food chain and the blood of our children, they don't recycle (only 7 % ) , sell their fast food, soda sugar drinks and OGM all over the world and have 8 times more violent crime per capita than in Europe. Then they put all their tech firms in Europe and invade the markets while cheating and paying no taxes while steal private data to sell it to 3rd parties without our consent . And we gave them Inependance and paid for it !

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Jonathan Katz

St. Louis7h ago

We need to get over the privacy hysteria. There is no right to suppress truthful information or expressions of opinion. Criminals, including juvenile offenders, should not have the power to suppress information about their crimes. If the information is false, defamation laws (already unnecessarily slanted in favor of plaintiffs in many countries) provide adequate recourse.

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Scott

Illyria7h ago

The idea of Google as a “quasi-judicial entity” is a bit disconcerting (and it appears that Google itself would prefer not to do this task). It is also inevitable whenever you try to regulate content on the internet. For those who don’t like it, what is the alternative on deciding who gets to see what on the internet? A bureaucratic office in Brussels? Chinese censors? The Trump administration? As disturbing it is to see private companies turning into quasi-governmental agencies, it’s even more disturbing to realize that’s probably the best alternative we have. Once we have laws deciding who is allowed to see what on the internet, this is the inevitable result.

Dan Frazier

Santa Fe, NM7h ago

The so-called "right to be forgotten" is a very bad idea. Balancing this supposed right against the much more important right to information and free expression is surely a nightmare for Google or anyone else who tries to do it. How do you define irrelevant information? Irrelevant to whom? Whoever posted the information in the first place must have thought it was relevant to someone. If the information is false and malicious, then let the parties sort it out in court.

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we Tp

oakland9h ago

History will wonder at a time when governments were limited to their jurisdictions while private companies were not. This creates perverse incentives to locate servers outside jurisdictions. But ironically, the EU privacy laws increase the value of information about EU citizens and give the advantage to operators working in secret. To avoid a bit of extra work, Google just gave them legal cover. Google built a boatload of goodwill from offering a free, groundbreaking, and essential service without a plague of advertising. Now we can't do without it, and it strives only to avoid stimulating a rebellion. Googles behavior is determined by the internal competition of its top management, who outdo each other to increase its power and reach and make a name for themselves. Unfortunately, China and Russia are leading the charge of the world into pervasive surveillance and propaganda. They are doubly protected. As nations, they are protected from outsiders on their own soil; with their massive companies and technical abilities, they operate freely on ours. Our dystopian fantasies are coming true, one legal ruling at a time.

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BMD

The right to be forgotten and the Internet are not compatible - any ruling / law will be messy as the kinks are worked out, but it would be nice if the US would try to develop something fair that does not interfere with freedom of the press.

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JPH

The US tech firms must have lobbied the European court surroundings to influence it . US companies have lawyers and lobbyists everywhere in all stages of the European commission to push and draw to sell their agriculture, their pesticides and fertilizers, their military warfare, their communication and internet businesses . Protect their fiscal fraud. Not everybody thinks the same in the European administrations. There are progressives tendencies like France , Portugal and Spain and Northern Europe , but also conservative forces like Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Italy, the UK ( still in the EU ) , Germany, Ireland, who are heavily manipulated by the USA and capitalist lobbies .

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William Feldman

Naples, Florida3h ago

@JPH What does anything that you wrote have to do with the right to be forgotten or with forcing that “right” on non European corporations?

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Bill Camarda

Ramsey, NJ9h ago

I haven't been able to find the decision online yet, so I'll ask The Times: Will this permit any EU company to completely evade the right to be forgotten by simply setting up one server somewhere else? If not, how? If so, doesn't the decision wipe out the right to be forgotten in the EU, too?

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oakland9h ago

@Bill Camarda The law still forbids the transmission of personal information outside the EU without explicit consent.

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Phantom

Canada5h ago

@we Tp I presume if someone in the EU consensually provides personal information to a company outside the EU, say when buying something online, then that information is not subject to EU law?

Speakin4Myself

OxfordPA9h ago

So companies, unlike people, can actually be in several places at once, legally. This court ruling is further proof of how absurd past SCOTUS rulings based on 'corporations are people' actually are. A corporation like Google can claim anything about you or me in countries A through N, but something different in EU countries as though both were true and correct, even if those claims conflict. "Fair is foul and foul is fair." People in contrast can only legally be in one jurisdiction at a time even if subject to multiple sets of laws. If you testify that 'A is A' in London, that can be cited against you next week when you claim in New York that 'A is B'. The fact that something is unregulated in the USA but regulated in the European Union does not mean that absence of regulation here is equivalent to regulation there. The failure of this decision to protect European Union citizens from information stored beyond the EU serves to mostly nullify a reasonable privacy regulation. On the Internet we are all citizens of the world in fact. Failure of courts to recognize what that means amounts to a false claim of jurisdiction from the world into countries that choose to regulate Internet information. If Google makes false information from offshore available to EU searchers as part of its EU business, it is violating EU law.

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Carlos R. Rivera

Coronado CA3h ago

@Speakin4Myself I think China, Cuba, Russia, et al would love that argument---using existing local laws to force international bodies to delete ALL negative information.

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Dan O

Texas10h ago

I've written to a number of companies that have information on me and asked for them to delete that information. Which they did. Unfortunately, if you do anything, like buy a house, car, etc it all comes back again, so you have to contact everyone again and make the request. Google has removed my info, too. But, how many companies out there have your information? That's the scary part. I was married before, about 40 yrs ago, and when my ex passed away recently the collection companies sought me out to pay the bills. I didn't respond, but they found my name, address, and phone number.

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Jonathan Katz

St. Louis3h ago

@Dan O You are not responsible for the debts of an ex-spouse, any more than you are responsible for the debts of another person who happens to have the same name as you. The ex-spouse's estate is responsible for her debts, and if the estate is insufficient, the creditors are out of luck. It's the executor's responsibility to deal with such matters. You were right to ignore the false claims from the collection agencies. If they threaten you, that is extortion.

Mark Thomason

Clawson, MI10h ago

The internet changed "remembering." It used to be that what was in last year's newspaper was beyond recall, except for a dedicated few doing research on microfilms in a library or newspaper file room. Today, it is at anyone's fingertips, forever. It never goes away. We will need a cultural adjustment to deal with that. I think it will be not an artificial forgetting, but a more forgiving view of the past. There is no sign of it yet. I don't think it can work to erase data worldwide. It might or might not be nice, but that falls into the category of "wouldn't it be pretty if." It won't happen. It can't. We need to look past our current harshly judgmental and unforgiving attitudes. Some things ought not to be forgiven. Repeated wrongs in a pattern should be remembered. However, one mistake ought not to erase a life of other things. Today, it tends to do that. Look at Al Franken. What is the balance of his life? Justin Trudeau? Winston Churchill post Gallipoli of WW1 would never have come back to be Prime Minister for WW2, as things stand today. We are all the losers for these attitudes. Forgetting required by law doesn't really work, but it seeks to do something we need to do in other ways. Be more forgiving. It would be good for us, for ourselves, not just for the objects of that.

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Phantom

Canada5h ago

@Mark Thomason. I think this post summarize the current situation (dilemma?) very nicely. (1) Due to the availability of information on the internet for all eternity, we tend to view old and dated information (e.g. an event) as if it happened today, without applying the norms and context of that time. (2) Due to the spread of information on the internet to all parts of the globe and millions of billions of people, the reactions are often completely out of proportion. Also, other relevant facts are not taken into account as they are not accessible or known in other regions. (3) Due to the speed information spreads on the internet, reaction is quick and often unbalanced as other facts that come out later may take time to surface. Meanwhile, judgement and the resulting damage has been done. (4) Due to the fact that most information is limited in scope (headline news, twitter post, etc.) the judgement and consequences are made based on a very small subset of the facts, resulting in overreaction.

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JPH

We are not going to "forget " in the EU that Google and all US tech firms, who are registered there fiscally , and not in the USA , cheat and pay not taxes while invading the markets, destroying the European economies and inflicting a 20 % deficit due to their fiscal fraud .

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Phantom

Canada5h ago

@JPH First off, most multinationals and registered in multiple countries. Yes, through creative accounting this gives them the ability to record the profits elsewhere depriving a country of local taxes. In the case of Google, Apple, and many others, itis my understanding that most of these companies are registered in Ireland which has a reduced tax rate. I believe Ireland is a member of the EU (I Googled it :-)). So it is the US that is being cheated of taxes with this practice. Trump and others are trying to bring this cash and taxes back into the US with no success. I live in Canada and many receipts I receive for online purchases have an address in Ireland even though I bought something here in Canada. Taxes for the sale that should be staying in Canada are going to Ireland, which is Europe. It may be Europe is unfairly benefiting from this arrangement. I’d welcome more knowledgeable comments on this.

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Paul

How does this work? if the information is 'transferred' outside of the union for storage reasons or simply someone posting the information on a foreign blog, how is it contained. I understand the decision but I wonder how you would actually do it.

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Phantom

Canada4h ago

@Paul exactly my question. I live in Canada. If I set up a blogging website and a European posts to it something they want taken down later, I can’t see the EU having any jurisdiction (or moral right) to force me to take down the post. This would only work if the law became international and countries agreed to enforce it across boundaries and locally.

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Henry O

The Right to be forgotten by all EU- based servers.

Geoffrey Peterson

ClevelandSept. 24

"Right to be forgotten" reminds me of the "memory holes" in George Orwell's 1984: ". . . and in the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building."

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JohnR

Dublin, Ireland11h ago

In the age of the internet with its unparalleled reach and “memory” the right to privacy and the right to be forgotten (in certain circumstances) should be regarded as essential rights. We live in a new age where technology has reached deeper into the public and private lives of people in a manner that was previously unimaginable. We have to find ways to deal with this reality that both respect the dignity of the individual while balancing broader rights and obligations. We are merely at the beginning of that journey and there will be many turns and twists. But at least the EU and the European Court of Justice are attempting to grapple with the enormous philosophical and human rights issues involved rather than taking refuge in the absurdity and pretence that some fundamental rights are absolute while others are not. But this is a sensible decision. The EU can make decisions for itself. It cannot make decisions for other democracies. Those democracies must grapple with these issues and arrive at their own conclusions. Nor of course can it make decisions for totalitarian dictatorships like China whose statist approach to these matters perfectly illustrates the dangers which the EU is attempting to avert.

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KarenAnne

@JohnR The EU's law is just rubbish. Just because people live in the EU, do they not have a right to know that someone they may rent a room to, or hire, or marry, once stabbed someone as in the case the Times reported? That is just crazy.

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Paul

@KarenAnne This is an interesting take. The premise of the law for many is based upon the concept of revenge porn. If someone is convicted of a crime, that information would continue as part of the intended purpose. At the very least, it would be restricted to law enforcement. The law does not appear to expunge crimes off the books but rather make it more difficult to view personal information. I admit that my knowledge of the law is limited but I always worry about extreme assumptions. With a world where we have no privacy and every part of lives is tracked and measured, somehow we need to find some balance.

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Mari

LondonSept. 24

I wonder if the quid-pro-quo will be that the ECJ will rule that the US FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) is also unenforceable in the EU?

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Colleen

NYC area10h ago

No. The reasons for FATCA go far beyond personal anonymity and are aimed primarily at minimizing tax evasion, money laundering, hiding money from corrupt/illicit activities. Persons engaged in these alleged activities anywhere in the world surely would desire privacy for obvious reasons but this law isn’t about returning to the old bank secrecy laws of the past. It’s about simply letting old, possibly irrelevant but personal news/information, stay old and it seems, inaccessible or hard to find. If there were no internet, the info would require much more work to track down than a few clicks and so harassing people or digging through someone’s past wouldn’t be such an easy, and tempting thing for some people to do to others. But...if one is in the EU and wishes to get past the new privacy barrier, wouldn’t a VPN be a work around, much like it is in China, as used to connect to the uncensored world outside the state controlled web. People could still surely upload stories/info that perhaps would have a shelf life now when it comes to appearing in EU search results but NOT when it comes to appearing in search results outside the EU. Searching online with a VPN served situated outside the EU ought to be a fix, I think. FATCA isn’t going anywhere. It’s legitimately difficult to trace well concealed money, but the right to be forgotten won’t have any effect on that. And it’s not that hard to find, if you do a little sleuthing. Just very slow and lots of steps involved.

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Dan

Brooklyn9h ago

@Colleen Yes, it looks like VPNs will now completely destroy the right to be forgotten. This is probably ok for some of the right's intended purposes--for instance, casual Google searches within the EU will no longer return embarrassing information--but means that some of the other purposes will be undercut. I'm guessing EU employers will routinely use VPNs when evaluating potential employees, for example, unless further regulations make it illegal to do so

 

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КОВИЋ: Јуриш хуманиста на неграђанисте на Београдском универзитету

Милош Ковић

08:20   02.03.2019.

Ми смртници, једноставно, морамо да се постарамо за то да, после „ослобођења“, не дочекамо нова безакоња и још црње дане

Пре нешто више од месец дана, у јавности се појавило писмо подршке суботњим грађанским протестима под насловом „105 од 5 милиона“, са потписима сто петоро запослених на Филозофском факултету у Београду (Пешчаник, 18. 1. 2019). Ту се, са пуним правом, власти оптужују да „урушавају институције и примену закона“ и да „прогонима у таблоидима, претњама, притворима, судским процесима и насиљем покушавају да застраше и понизе грађане Србије“.

На овом месту сам, међутим, изразио чуђење (Политика, 28. 1. 2019) јер се у овом документу српске власти оптужују да „одустају од европског пута и добросуседских односа“, док се ни једном речју не помињу Косово и Метохија. Указао на то да се питање Косова не може одвајати од борбе за људска права, владавину права и демократију. Тамо грађани Србије трпе најстрашније урушавање институција, безакоње, прогоне, претње, притворе и судске процесе. То је последица оружане агресије водећих земљама ЕУ (1999) и њиховог рада на стварању Велике Албаније.

Са изузетком Грчке и Румуније, које нису признале „Косово“, наши „добросуседи“ у томе су им дали пуну подршку. Албанија је чак учествовала у нападу на Србију и данас свима званично саопштава да ће припојити ове српске територије. Српске власти на овакве добросуседске поруке одговарају речитим ћутањем. Уколико Александар Вучић и сарадници успеју у своме науму да „разграниче“ Србију са Косовом и Метохијом, преко 70.000 наших грађана биће изложено опасности од дословног уништења.

Ових дана на Филозофском факултету смо се, међутим, изнова уверили на који начин део потписника писма „105 од 5 милиона“, а реч је о онима који долазе са Одељења за историју – Радош Љушић, Влада Станковић, Никола Самарџић, Дубравка Стојановић и остали – схвата чак и тако неспорна начела као што су „одбрана институција“, „примена закона“ и борба против „прогона“, „претњи“, „насиља“ и „понижења“.

Читаоци Политике су, да подсетим, већ годинама невољни сведоци прогона професора и студената Одељења за историју, које организују и спроводе управо ови храбри борци и боркиње за владавину права и људско достојанство. Потписник ових редова их је, заједно са још двоје колега, Жарком Петковићем и Вером Васиљевић (професорка на Одељењу за археологију), спречио у покушају да нам одузму професорска звања и радна места. Ови хуманисти спречавали су чак и наше студенте постдипломце да одбране своје дипломске и постдипломске радове. Тада је кроз истог „топлог зеца“, морао да прође и колега Ђорђе Бубало. Од тада до данас, међутим, сви универзитетски и факултетски статути и правилници, упозорења ректора, универзитетског омбудсмана, правних служби Универзитета и Факултета, покушаји договора, нису спречили ове хероје јавне речи и мисли да, уз позивање на аутономију Одељења, звање и посао одузму колеги Александру Фотићу.

Данас је у току беспримерно, вишемесечно злостављање професорке Мире Радојевић. Марљиви спроводилац налога наших грађана и грађанки, управник Одељења за историју Милош Јагодић, заиста се својски труди да, упркос слову статута и правилника, спречи њено унапређење у звање редовног професора.

Најгоре, међутим, тек долази. У наредних месец дана ови хуманисти ће покушати да са посла избаце доценте Небојшу Шулетића и Мају Николић. Њихове реферате о овим колегама, препуне измишљотина, са све именима потписника, свако може да прочита на сајту Филозофског факултета.

Зашто то чине? О томе могу само да нагађам. Зашто се о томе јавно не изјасне? Зар трибине на Филозофском факултету, на којима баш они уче студенте грађанским врлинама, не носе наслов „Није филозофски ћутати“?

Потпуно је невероватно да професори Универзитета у Београду већ годинама морају да трпе срамотно насиље, кршење процедура и воље факултетског Већа. Је ли могуће да не постоји законски начин да се прогони зауставе? Хоће ли овај текст помоћи да се безакоње и јавни скандал на Филозофском факултету коначно прекину?

Недела једне клике, наравно, не приписујем свим потписницима писма „105 од 5 милиона“. Напротив, то су колеге које се, својом убедљивом већином, годинама супротстављају насиљу на Одељењу за историју и, у факултетском Већу, гласају на основу проверљивих чињеница.

Немам намеру ни да оно што грађани и грађанке са Одељења чине припишем покретачима суботњих протеста. Међу оснивачима Савеза за Србију су људи који су, у време најгорих прогона, јавно стали иза мене и мојих колега. Али немам ни трунку сумње у то да бисмо једног дана, уколико би хуманисти са Одељења за историју и њима слични приграбили власт, данашњих прогона, претњи, насиља и понижења могли да се сећамо као доба хармоније и пристојности.

Слобода од насиља и владавина права? Наравно, али само за одабране. Није спорно право на различите политичке ставове, него дволичност. Јавна одбрана грађанских врлина, а иза затворених врата, разуларено насиље. Ми смртници, једноставно, морамо да се постарамо за то да, после „ослобођења“, не дочекамо нова безакоња и још црње дане.

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Jan 23, 2019 18:10

US President Donald Trump has recognized Venezuela's opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim president in a provocative move against the elected government of Nicolas Maduro.

"Today, I am officially recognizing the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaido, as the Interim President of Venezuela," Trump said in statement.

He called the Maduro government "illegitimate" and "directly responsible for any threats" posed to the Venezuelan people.

He added he would use "the full weight of United States economic and diplomatic power to press for the restoration of Venezuelan democracy"and encouraged other governments in the Western Hemisphere to also recognize Guaido.

US-backed Guaido, who is currently the President of the National Assembly, swore an oath and declared himself interim president on Monday as thousands took to the streets calling for Maduro to leave office.

Earlier this week, Maduro had called for a revision of Venezuela's diplomatic relations with the US after Vice President Mike Pence openly called for regime change in the struggling country.

Maduro said the US was shamelessly interfering in his country's domestic affairs and rejected its "imperialist interventionism" which he said promoted "instability and violence."

Ukraine coup de état, ringing bells. Venezuela wouldn't have this sh#t if they didn't have such huge oil reserves. East Ukraine also happens to be Europe's farming eden, very fruitful. I bet the US would've been more than interested in making deals to spread their gene-manip harvests across EU, because they tried to enforce the TTIP - deal about the same time as they intervened Ukraine.

But other countries are not allowed to "interfere" in US elections.

Not need for interference, the US is now directly selecting and appointing presidents of other countries.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo urged Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro to step down and called on the country’s military to support efforts to restore “democracy” in a move which could be seen as encouraging an armed coup.

Jan 23, 2019 19:18

Brazil and seven other South American countries have recognized Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó as the country’s interim president, following the lead of the United States, Canada, and France. Mexico and Bolivia declined.

Jan 23, 2019 19:29

The Trump administration’s recognition of Venezuela's opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim president has provoked criticism from independent journalists but cheers from an unexpected quarter: his domestic foes.

Jan 23, 2019 19:42

Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro said Caracas is breaking off diplomatic relations with the US, giving American diplomats 72 hours to leave the country, after Donald Trump recognized the opposition leader as interim head.

Jan 23, 2019 20:11

The US President’s decision to recognize Venezuelan opposition figure Juan Guaido as the county’s “interim president” may set off a “possible civil war” in the oil-rich nation, WikiLeaks has warned.

Jan 23, 2019 20:08

Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó has taken an oath and sworn himself in as interim president, as droves of protesters take to the streets calling for President Nicolas Maduro’s exit.

Jan 23, 2019 18:05

Female Reporter Asks Pro-Choicers What Firearm They'd Choose; Published on Jan 21, 201

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They won't choose a gun but they have no problem killing an unborn baby, buncha hypocrites.

HOOTERS WAITRESS DEMANDS BLACK MAN REMOVE MAGA HAT, GETS SCHOOLED Another recent instance of the left going berserk over pro-Trump hats; JANUARY 21, 2019

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- Cynthia Drockton, 3 days ago, Rico law for all in Congress and the house. All should live in the district. All should be natural citizens. All should not use foul language. Not one should praise a foreign country and raise their flag. Soros voting machines should be destroyed with no back door. There should be at least two from each party in charge of vote count. Voter ID as most illegals have driver licenses. Every state should clean their voters that are dead or moved out of the records and I mean every state.
- Gracie Adams, 3 days ago, This is NOT “Bad Behavior”!!! This is crimes...high crimes, misdemeanors, TREASON, sedition, felony after felony!!
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Jackie Beyer, 3 days ago, Why does it take so long? These evil corrupt people are communicating with one another trying to cover their tracks! Clinton’s are starting fires in their own home to cover up evidence! Rosenstein, Mueller and Comey’s text and emails need to be placed into evidence to confirm they were communicating in the days before Comey was fired! It was all a set up!

BREAKING!! Mark Levin Made A Huge Announcement On BORDER! DEMS NEVER SAW THIS COMING!!11; 15:35 min.; Published on Jan 9, 2019

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TWITTER BANS LIFESITENEWS FOR SCIENCE ARTICLE COVERING SPREAD OF STDS AMONG GAY MEN

LGBT thought police now a danger to public health

Mike Adams - OCTOBER 19, 2018 

IMAGE CREDITS: ESTHER VARGAS, FLICKER.

In “progressive” America today, you’re no longer allowed to mention the scientific facts about the spread of STDs among gay men.

Twitter has just banned LifeSiteNews for daring to report the scientific facts about gay sex spreading many blood-borne diseases. Because the LGBT thought police now run all the tech giants, any fact-based reports that don’t worship anal sex as an ultra-clean lifestyle of purity and godliness are quickly banned by the tech giants.

With this bowing down to the anti-science lunacy of the LGBT propagandists, Twitter now underscores why it is a danger to the public health of all Americans. Articles that discuss infectious diseases among heterosexual couples are openly allowed, of course, because according to the LGBT cultists, straight heterosexual intercourse is “strange” and “weird.” But articles that discuss the health risks associated with anal penetrative sexual intercourse are verboten.

Science, in other words, is now deemed “hate speech” by the clueless, scientifically illiterate LGBT crusaders who spent their college years learning how to be “social justice warriors” rather than informed biologists. Fact-based reality has been overthrown by LGBT-protective tech monopolists who control all online conversations by asserting authoritarian control over thoughts and speech. They’ve unanimously decided that protecting their false narratives of “safe” anal sex are far more important than educating the public about how anal cancer is actually spread. (Hint: Primarily through anal sex, in case you haven’t figured that out yet…)

THE COMMUNITY ANUS MUST BE PROTECTED BY EVERYONE AT TWITTER, INSISTS @JACK, OR THE BUNGHOLE BRIGADE WILL SILENCE YOU

The full story from LifeSiteNews:

October 18, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Twitter has just locked LifeSiteNews out of our Twitter account over an article we posted four years ago that provided expert analysis on the rise in sexually-transmitted diseases among homosexuals.

The 2014 piece by Dr. Gerard M. Nadal, a molecular biologist and microbiologist who is also president and CEO of the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer, responds to media coverage of what was at the time the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s new annual report on STDs.

Contrary to the consensus that the “reason for the documented continued rise in syphilis (primarily affecting homosexuals) has more to do with homophobia than anything else,” Dr. Nadal attributes the rise to factor such as an “upward trend in unprotected sex” and 60% of homosexual men failing to disclose their symptoms or status to sex partners.

He cited data from mainstream sources such as the CDC, a then-recent New York Times report, and a 2006 study in the journal AIDS Behavior.

On October 18, 2018, however, LifeSiteNews received the following message, notifying staff that Twitter was locking the account because the 2014 tweet sharing the story’s neutral, factual headline violated “our rules against hateful conduct,” and somehow “promote[d] violence against, threaten[ed], or harass[ed] other people on the basis of […] sexual orientation […], or serious disease.”

No further elaboration was given. A length of time for the lockout was not specified. The only recourse offered was for LifeSite to remove the tweet or start an appeal process. For the moment, LifeSite staff cannot post to or otherwise operate @LifeSitein any way.

“This total intolerance for even reporting government health dept statistics that reveal the health dangers of homosexual activity betrays what Peter Thiel, himself a homosexual, previously called a totalitarian mindset in Silicon Valley,” said Steve Jalsevac, co-founder and president of LifeSiteNews.

“Twitter is now trying to force news agencies to report only what is acceptable to their personal, biased views and shutting down balanced, factual reporting on the homosexual issue.”

“This is getting dangerous for our democracy since a free press is one of the basic and necessary foundations for a genuinely democratic society,” Jalsevac warned. “This is getting scary. It is in everyone’s interest to fight this type of action and even demand government intervention to protect our rights.”

Just the day before, former LifeSiteNews reporter and Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH.org) president Peter LaBarbera revealed at LifeSiteNewsthat Twitter had recently banned him on the same grounds, over a 2016 tweet describing homosexual acts as a “sin” that “spreads disease.”

“If Twitter no longer allows its users to advocate for healthy behaviors on its platform, and to defend their sincere moral and religious beliefs–shared by billions worldwide–then it will devolve into a bland, politically correct echo-chamber,” LaBarbera warned.

LifeSiteNews has created a petition here urging Twitter to un-block LifeSite’s account.

“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics”
-Twain

 

-The deep state has been responsible for death and destruction world wide and they did it with the American flag wrapped around them. If these crimes get exposed in the wrong way then people will blame America and not the criminal cabal that was doing it in America’s name. We the people have not been holding our elected government accountable partially because they lie to us and partially because we haven’t been paying enough attention.

How stupid must feel all those democrats that supported and voted for Clinton crooks?

Hillary Clinton’s emails were routinely and illegally forwarded to an “unauthorized foreign entity”, according to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG), providing further proof that Hillary Clinton was a security risk and traitor the the United States.

What Part of complicity and public responsibility, main street media  bull hornes, like NYT, WAPOST, NPR, CBC, NBC, Woolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, Amounpoor ,BBC, Barack Obama, play in a con game played on "YOU"? What a pisser, and world wide embarassement...? Immagine heads of state, Clintons, Blairs, Obama's,  Sarkozy crooks, all the wars, death,  and destruction they have created world wide.....Yogoslavia, Lybia, Syria,

 

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