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Frankie P says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:01 pm GMT • 100 Words
Colin,
Please watch the following documentary on the role of Jews in the Bolshevik Revolution and the Communists of Russia. I recommend it because the man who made it relies almost totally on the writings of Jewish historians and Jews involved in the Revolution.
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Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:08 pm GMT • 200 Words
Come on. You haven’t read Dante’s Inferno or works by Doctors of the Church (esp., St. Teresa of Avila) regarding Christians in hell. But apart from that, hell is merely eternal privation or eternal separation from God or eternal solitary confinement. While Christians in theory have an easier means to be united with God they also have a higher bar because of that means. And Church leaders have an even higher bar given their status— special grace or extra grace (St. John Chrysostom, Doctor of the Church, wrote that “the road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops”).
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finalyinformed says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:10 pm GMT • 100 Words
Being raised a Southern Baptist(Christian Zionist)it took the roll out of the internet and a desire to learn the REAL facts, along with a few years research to learn of the truths of which you speak. One web site which was instrumental in my awakening to the dangers of Talmudic Judaism was “Come and Hear”. It is a great source of information on this subject.
Ron, your article was very enlightening and very in depth. If America does not expel the cancer of radical Zionism which has infected her, she will surly be finished.
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vinteuil says:
Yeah, pretty much, but most Christian believers these days try to soften it a bit, insisting that “burning in hell” is just a metaphor for separation from God.
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utu says:
You are a fool and Hitler was a fool. You are excused because no deeper understanding of reality (Liever Turks dan Paaps) is expected from a Dutch but Hitler being an Austrian Catholic is not excused.
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Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:22 pm GMT • 200 Words
Not exactly, though in some cases depending on the sect.
As far as traditional Catholic and general standardish Protestant teaching is concerned:
Relevant section (I apologize for length):
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Old fogey says:
You are a brave and courageous man, Mr. Unz. Bravo.
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Jake says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:29 pm GMT • 400 Words
“Over the years prominent Israeli rabbis have sometimes publicly debated whether Jewish power has now become sufficiently great that all the Christian churches of Jerusalem, Bethleham, and other nearby areas can finally be destroyed, and the entire Holy Land completely cleansed of all traces of its Christian contamination. Some have taken this position, but most have urged prudence, arguing that Jews needed to gain some additional strength before they should take such a risky step. These days, many tens of millions of zealous Christians and especially Christian Zionists are enthusiastic advocates for Jews, Judaism, and Israel, and I strongly suspect that at least some of that enthusiasm is based upon ignorance.”
Yes, but the fact remains that Judaizing heresy always produces pro-Jewish culture and politics, including culture and politics that intentionally promote Jews and Jewish notions as part of the culture war to destroy ‘other’ Christians.
WASP culture is Exhibit A. And true-believing, including old time Puritan Judaizing theology believing, WASPs will back Israel even if Israel starts overrunning churches, turning them into synagogues or museums. The most obvious such people in America are the Pentecostal and, increasingly, Southern Baptist and other ‘fundamentalist’ Evangelicals, but all Mainline Protestant churches have their more country club version of the problem. George Will is an atheist version of the upper middle class Mainline Protestant form of WASP Judaizing.
I have zero doubt that 100% Gentile blood devout Evangelicals I know very well and know like me would play Oliver Cromwell and murder me, if their Judaizing religious leaders were to be convinced by Rabbis that doing so would spread ‘Bible truth’. Their religion is the direct fruit of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, and until they are fully converted from it, they will follow its directives.
You cannot change that by changing church. It is religion that bubbles up from the cultural core. That’s the reason that English-speaking Catholicism is now as much a Judaizing mess in upper middle class form as is the Episcopal church.
You assimilate to WASP culture: you assimilate to Judaizing.
In a nutshell, that the reason that English replaced Yiddish as the international Jewish language. That is the reason that Jews from all the globe, speaking all languages, encourage the peoples of the world to become more Anglicized.
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Grahamsno(G64) says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
Blood passover is a beautifully written work on Medieval Venetian history it’s densely footnoted and and should be considered a work of Scholarship. But the most ‘democratic’ state in the middle east broke the man and stopped the work’s publication. Dr. Toaff deserved an award for his meticulous work.
The book gives a vivid potrait of jewish financial swindlers doing back then what they do now, control the banks and indulge in high level fraud.
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I have read Dante’s Inferno and Limbo seems pretty decent. Nonetheless, that was merely Dante’s way of allowing the greats from classical times not to burn. Limbo was of course still in hell too.
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Hans says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:36 pm GMT • 100 Words
I should have mentioned Goldwin Smith’s excellent essay, The Vexing Jewish Question – http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n1p16_Smith.html
and Churchill’s Zionism vs. Bolshevism – https://archive.org/details/ZionismVsBolshevismByWinstonChurchill
and E. Michael Jones’ outstanding The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit – http://culturewars.com/Reviews/RevolutionaryReviews.html
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Jake says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:37 pm GMT • 100 Words
No. Hitler’s vision was of Germans making serfs of Slavs. Hitler’s great hero was the queer Frederick the Great, who alternated between Enlightenment ideas that sound gooey and tender, on the one hand, and desire, on the other, to revive the most amorally brutal forms of pagan German warring as life itself.
The Hitler problem is the Germanic problem, Continental form. WASP is the other form of the Germanic problem, each wing of which sees almost all other Europeans as inferior and fit to be ground into dust.
Hitler and Judaizing archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell are not opposites. They are the two sides of the one coin.
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Jake says:
Not Vatican II Catholicism, which is at least half-Protestant: the most stupidly liberal Mainline type of Protestantism.
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mcohen says:
Of course he did not.the truth does not matter on the edge of uranus,just the lube.
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anon[622] • Disclaimer says:
“Rome sent powerful armies.” Yeah, self-important since 66 AD. The six legions sent by Nero against Jews are precisely equal to the six legions he sent against Parthians – this was all Rome could muster in Middle East. The difference is that, of course, Parthians defeated Rome.
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Anonymous[184] • Disclaimer says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:56 pm GMT • 100 Words
That Chief of Rome would be Elio Toaff (1951–2002), and not Israel Zolli (1940–1943), who converted to Catholicism.
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Seamus Padraig says:
July 16, 2018 at 1:59 pm GMT • 200 Words
Unz’s chain of masterpieces remains unbroken!
I strongly suspect that all of it is based upon ignorance.
So basically what we’re dealing with here is a kind of 3000 year-old Scientology.
They’ll probably believe it; they’ll just scratch their heads wondering how we were too stupid to see it going on all around us.
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Seraphim says:
July 16, 2018 at 2:09 pm GMT • 300 Words
Before Hugh of Lincoln (1255) was William of Norwich (1144).
The Italian boy was Simone of Trento (known as Simonino di Trento), whose case was addressed by Ron commenting the ‘scandal’ provoked by the book of Prof. Ariel Toaff “Pasque di sangue” (Blood Passover). Simonino was beatified and
his cult was extremely popular in Trento until 1965 when the Catholic hierarchy ‘desanctified’ him and forbade the public cult.
The ‘Syrian’ was Father Thomas, a French citizen originally from Sardinia, and the superior of a Franciscan
convent at Damascus who disappeared along with his servant in 1840. The “Damascus Affair” brought the massive intervention of European, British and American Jews in defense of the culprits. “For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews…
organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress.”
“For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive
political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to
be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy.”
In the same year (1840) we have also the “Rhodes blood libel” resulting in the same intervention from Europe. Salomon Mayer von Rothschild from Austria, Sir Moses Montefiore from England
and Adolphe Cremieux from France (the founder of the Alliance Israelite Universelle) took the lead in fighting the ‘blood libel’
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Rich says:
July 16, 2018 at 2:14 pm GMT • 100 Words
Well, the great Mr Unz, champion of free speech, has taken a giant step here. We’ll begin to hear stories about him now, he’ll be attacked personally in the mainstream media and attempts will be made to destroy this site, and to remove his presence in the public arena, or to defame him. None of his opponents will argue against him on facts, they will attack him personally, calling him names. which I guess is a kind of holdout from the days when people thought cursing someone actually worked. Let’s all hope Mr Unz survives these coming attacks, and the cause of free speech grows strong again.
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iffen says:
While he shines a spotlight
My eyes! My eyes!
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iffen says:
quote by Israel Shahak backs that up:
OMG, You found a Jew who said, “Blah, Blah, Blah.”
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Mr. Anon says:
July 16, 2018 at 2:21 pm GMT • 100 Words
I think it was David Horowitz (the ex-communist turned Republican, not the consumer advocate) who said about Christians (I paraphrase): I don’t care if they think I’m going to Hell, as long as they don’t try to send me there. A very reasonable point of view, I think.
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Mr. Anon says:
Of course, the same could be said of the Christians of that era too.
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Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:
July 16, 2018 at 2:24 pm GMT • 100 Words
Here’s one of the Jewish “protesters” at the 2018 Academics’ Ball in Vienna:
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Mr. Anon says:
July 16, 2018 at 2:30 pm GMT • 100 Words
And it is afterall well-known that conquerors routinely show their disdain for those whom they conquer by avoiding any relations with their women.
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Mr. Anon says:
July 16, 2018 at 2:38 pm GMT • 100 Words
Perhaps pre-dating that was this:
which caused a minor stir when it was published and adapted for the stage. I remember reading a review of the play in Newsweek, in which some of the dialogue was quoted and it expressed a similar idea. It was however, just a work of fiction.
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Mr. Anon says:
DDOS attack in 3…..2…..1…..
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Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
July 16, 2018 at 2:43 pm GMT • 200 Words
A cursory search reveals this: https://www.unz.com/runz/meritocracy-response-to-prof-gelman-on-jewish-elite-overrepresentation/?highlight=baytch ; I don’t know if that’s the article of Ms.(?) Baytch’s to which you refer.
Could you link to the study you’re talking about, or some discussion or summary of it? What with you not being familiar with Mr. Unz’s articles and his possibly not being familiar with yours it seems there is a good deal of talking-past going on here. Here are some search results: https://www.unz.com/?s=crimson&Action=Search&authors=ron-unz&ptype=item ; here are some more ; https://www.unz.com/?s=crimson&Action=Search&ptype=item&commentsearch=include&commenter=Ron+Unz; and finally here are some more: https://www.unz.com/?s=self-identified&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=include&commenter=Ron+Unz
I haven’t gone through them all but these seem like relevant search terms.
By the way, Mr. Unz or anyone
else, what’s the mysterious “postid” in the search url? The searches seem to work fine without it.
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Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
To be exactly precise, he found an iffen who said, “Blah, Blah, Blah.”
(He who lives by the quip…)
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Mr. Anon says:
July 16, 2018 at 2:48 pm GMT • 100 Words
I think you’re on to something there.
I’ve often thought that there is a fatal flaw in the anglo-saxon race: the conceit of extreme individualism – I’ll look out for me and mine, and y’all can go to Hell. It explains a lot about America.
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macilrae says:
July 16, 2018 at 3:00 pm GMT • 200 Words
Sir Richard Burton, the famed explorer and great ethnologist of the nineteenth century, reached many similar conclusions during his inquiries into Judaism. While he was British consul in Damascus he attempted to curtail the activities of the Jewish merchants – who had committed abuses against the local population. Appealing to their coreligionists in powerful positions in England, they succeeded in helping to get Burton removed from his post.
After his death a jumble of Burton’s writings on the subject was published under the title “The Jew, the Gypsy and El Islam” (http://jrbooksonline.com/jgei.htm). Originally, the manuscript had included an appendix headed “Human Sacrifice Among the Sephardine [sic] or Eastern Jews” on documented cases of ritual murder but this was suppressed and has remained inaccessible. In recent years, however, the forbidden manuscript has briefly surfaced; being offered for sale at Christies but seemingly not reaching the reserve price of 210,000 pounds. There was huge controversy over the appropriateness of this offering so the actual fate of the work is unknown.
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You think you have been conquered by Jews?
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Fidelios Automata says:
July 16, 2018 at 3:12 pm GMT • 100 Words
Fascinating article. Bravo, Mr. Unz! I’m as goyisch as they come, and I’ve always had a grudging respect for the Jews as survivors and capitalists while realizing that much of what Organized Jewry does is completely unethical. Seems they’re much more of a warrior people than we’ve suspected — like the Vikings or the Lakota or the Japanese, only secretly so. Indeed, seeing how the previous three groups are now emasculated shadows of their former selves, the Jewish approach has been the most successful. I must read Shahak’s book!
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Fidelios Automata says:
3000-year old Scientology! Love the metaphor!
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Bardon Kaldian says:
July 16, 2018 at 3:14 pm GMT • 1,000 Words
If reincarnation exists, our Ron Unz has been in former life James Joyce or Dorothy Richardson. Karmic tendencies of stream-of-consciousness style of writing are so strong that he begins with Talmud & Kabbalah, then goes on to expulsions of Jews, usury, medical profession among Jews, Rabbinical nutjobs ..and then to Communists, Nazis, US Jewish ethno-nationalists, Kevin MacDonald, Solzhenitsyn & the rest. It is simply impossible to comment on all, or most of these topics.
Generally, the author has correctly described, in Jungian terms, Jewish “shadow” or inner devil, i.e. sum of destructive & negative tendencies of this entity (we can perceive any collective as an entity, a sort of super-personality as depicted, with different aims, in Hobbes’ “Leviathan”).
Where Unz is not fair, it is his reductionist view. He equates Jews with their (stereo)typical vices, which is the same mistake we make when we reduce a whole person to his loathsome traits, while ignoring laudable ones.
I’ll mostly c/p something I wrote before, with just a few extra points:
1. except (perhaps ?) some fringe sects, Talmudic Judaism does not worship Satan. The claim is simply a monumental nonsense. It is a misunderstanding that is frequently attached to another Middle Eastern sect, Yazidis, and in their case it is also a sort of spiritual calumny & gross disinformation (in our Western world, Cathars had been accused of the same perversion). Esoteric meaning of the role of Satan is just disfigured by orthodox religious literalists.
2. blood libel? Not convincing. As I’ve said before, it is true that human sacrifice had existed in virtually all archaic societies; it is also true that occult traditions frequently consider human blood as the most potent intensifier in acquisition of occult powers. Just, Judaism has gotten rid of human sacrifice long ago & there is no evidence that Jews (or Jewish occultists) had been practicing blood “potentiation” either in the first Christian millennium, or in Zoroastrian, Greek-Roman, Mesopotamian polytheistic & Islamic societies. Significantly enough, accusations of “blood libel” chronologically coincided with the rise of anti-Judaism in Western Europe & intensity of religious fervor we associate with Crusades. More, the claim that these rituals were, supposedly, uniform has not been corroborated. Even perfectly quotidian & normal Jewish religious practices significantly vary across time & place (Sephardim, Mizrahim, Ashkenazim,..).
As far as Jewish ethnocentrism goes- it’s the cornerstone of their religion & identity (which has been formed from, roughly, 700 BC to 100 AD). It is not a reaction, but the very essence of self- definition of that ethno-religious group & culture. Judaism is an imaginative refurbishing of other Near Eastern religions; it does not possess its own mythology. Normative Judaism- unlike Kabbalah- is a Platonized religion in many respects similar to early Confucianism: life’s fulfillment is achieved through learning, study & mostly mental work- and not piety, nor supernatural yearnings. Early Judaism, as recorded in the Pentateuch, had not possessed that idea. Somewhere around 100-300 A.D. Jews adopted Plato’s ethic of self-cultivation through intellectual work & produced a vast literature- from contemporary perspective- of, generally, dated & sterile Behemoth nitpicking trivialities (Talmud, Responsa, ..). There are some problematic passages in the Talmud with regard to Gentiles & Christians. Babylonian Talmud was composed from ca. 200-600 AD; it has 6,500 big folio pages & its English translation runs over 15,000 pages. So- why not openly say there are a few insulting passages that reflect early medieval spirit of times? Talmud is a mixture of wisdom literature (similar to Confucian “Analects”), various superstitions on magic & astrology, exegeses on murky passages of Hebrew Bible (frequently fantastic & hilarious), and mostly a codification of Jewish law, similar to Islamic shariah (agriculture, marriage, various taboos & ceremonies, crimes & misdemeanors, food etc.)
Christianity was mentioned only a few times in this library of books, almost always in negative light. Why not publicly say it’s obsolete in some areas? And that such fellows are, basically, freaks:
With regard to Judaism’s “ideological” spiritual arrogance, Shahak (and others) are right: their religious culture is essentially supremacist & there is no other spiritual tradition I know of that denies other people basically the same anthropological status in religious sense. In Kabbalah, which is esoteric extension of normative Judaism, only Jews possess divine portion of “soul”. Others do not.
We know from different Gnostic religious traditions that they all aver there is split between empirical human psyche & essential, divine Self (Buddhata/Buddha Nature in Mahayana Buddhism, Atman in Vedanta Hinduism, Daimon or Nous in Greek religion, Inner Man and Christ Logos in (Neoplatonic) Christianity, Angel Christ in Christian Gnosticism, ruh/spirit and Perfect Nature in Hermetic variants of Islamic Sufism etc.). Only in Kabbalah & other variants of Judaism they deny that other humans are, basically, the same as they are. According to them, only Jews possess Neshamah (which is divine), or “upper layers” of Neshamah, like Chaya and Yechidah. Such religious arrogance & spiritual autism do not exist, as far as I know, anywhere else.
For those interested
in Jewish controversial topics, I would recommend Shahak’s books (as a beginning), then Lindemann & Walter Laqueur:
If you are interested in Kabbalah,
then crucial works by Gerschom Scholem & Moshe Idel, for instance:
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Hairway To Steven says:
July 16, 2018 at 3:27 pm GMT • 100 Words
My thoughts exactly. This article may end up finally killing unz.com — it will now be (properly) understood to be a hate site by the vast majority of people made aware of it. Ron Unz must have, at some level, understood this when he was preparing the piece for publication. Which means that his article is an act of self-destruction.
If unz.com goes, so will iSteve. That’s the real tragedy.
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jacques sheete says:
July 16, 2018 at 3:30 pm GMT • 100 Words
That seems yet another good example of projection. Your plainly canned commentary is clearly contrived, but you do get high points for consistency.
Your comments rarely fail to amuse, but do you really think you’re accomplishing anything of value by making them? In case you’re wondering, they substantiate much of the author’s case against the arrogant fanatics.
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Pat Casey says:
July 16, 2018 at 3:32 pm GMT • 100 Words
The Torah is only the first five books of the Old Testament. Ron said:
Emphasis added.
You are wrong.
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jacques sheete says:
July 16, 2018 at 3:38 pm GMT • 100 Words
True and they keep getting better.
I strongly suspect the same.
True without a shred of doubt.
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rjl says:
Also, maybe “…charms, portions, spells, incantations…” should read “…charms, potions, spells, incantations…”
Excellent article.
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ANDYHANDY says:
JEWS ARE EVIL…NUFF SAID!!
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AaronB says:
July 16, 2018 at 3:55 pm GMT • 700 Words
Lol, a short while ago I would have agreed with this article.
But the truth is simply that the whole world is always at war, all groups constantly war against each other.
The fact that Jews were kicked out of every country is trotted out as some highly significant fact pointing to the uniquely anti social character of Jewish culture, and I myself viewed it this way not too long ago – but every European country has been at constant and unceasing war for all of its history, and Asian victims of European aggression have found something uniquely anti social in European culture.
England, France, Italy, Spain, Germany – constant war. This is no different than Jews being constantly at war with every society among which they settle.
It seems to be the law of this world that every group with a distinct identity wages war against every other group to the extent of its power and ability.
Jews use cunning and deceit and money to wage war – Europeans tend to find this uniquely abhorrent, much preferring their own method of war which is physical strength and brutality, but I can find no reason why a physically stronger person has more of a “right” to impose his will on others than the cunning person.
Jews are remarkably clear headed about this – I have had Jews tell me that Jews cheat, but gentiles murder, and this is what one should watch out for in dealing with the two groups. History bears this out – but in truth, the roles could beeasily reversed under the right circumstances, as a weapon is dictated by the situation.
Each group uses its own distinct weapons, and views the weapons of other groups as uniquely “dishonorable”. But this is a part of the human comedy.
Jewish contempt and animosity for non Jews is very real and one can find any number of quotes in Jewish sacred scriptures which bear this out – but Jewish universalism and even respect and appreciation for goyim (!) is equally real and an important strain in Jewish culture, eschatology, and theory of this world and the end of days.
Like any pre modern culture, Jewish culture is complex, multi-faceted, and contradictory – a rigid, simplistic mentality of the kind produced by the excessive study of mathematics, science, or computer science is ill equipped to make heads or tails of a way of thought that is fundamentally richer and more complex and equivocal than the rigid simplicities of modernity, with its anxiety-based yearning for simple facts to anchor itself onto in a shifting quicksand world.
It would be interesting to contrast the anti social passages of Judaism with those of Christianity or other groups – for Christians, all others suffer eternal torments for not believing what they believe. Even Jews agree that righteous gentiles go to heaven.
It is all part of the human comedy – minds that are able to gain the larger perspective and soar high above the petty entanglements of group identity and self interest can look down on these skirmishes, engagements, and battles with each group vying for position, trying to paint its rival as uniquely capable of acts it itself commits daily, can look down on these things from the perspective of eternity and smile a bit.
But there are few such minds – and nothing is more exciting to most people than to do spend their lives in jockeying for some minor advantage over some rival group.
The one good point about this article is that Jews are indeed the enemy of every group they settle among, at least potentially, just as the English nation spent its history as a nation (now ending) in endless warfare against enemies near and far, against close neighbors and distant Asiatic kingdoms, according to the ancient law of group against group, individual against individual.
The correct way to view the attempt to find Jewish culture uniquely anti social by Europeans is as merely another skirmish in the war of groups, and as an attempt by Europeans to gain advantage over their rivals.
Of course, there is a way to escape this war of all against all, but in each generation only few succeed in doing so – ultimately, I hope, everyone will, as the cycle of reincarnation continues, and each individual advances up the rungs.
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July 16, 2018 at 3:56 pm GMT • 100 Words
Don’t be silly. The Talmud is a vast collection of purposefully contradictory attempts to explain the written Torah. This makes the Torah, and the rest of the Old Testament, far more central to Judaism than the Talmud. Your weaselly attempt to avoid admitting this by focussing on his use of the word “most” is utterly irrelevant, especially given the relative inportant of the five books if the Torah versus the rest of the Old Testament.
Not that the Talmud can be described as one work anymore than Wikipedia, including its endless edits pages, could.
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July 16, 2018 at 3:56 pm GMT • 100 Words
Ok, here goes:
I believe that Judaism controls the US, the EU, etc. The thing I just CANNOT understand is WHY!
Yes, Jews are intelligent, but they aren’t THAT intelligent; Jews are VERY ethnocentric, but that doesn’t explain it either.